River Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 I see viewing the Italian site of the Savannah aircraft they appear to have their new STOL winged aircraft ready for production... Interesting figures they are giving on the aircraft. "Savannah ADV Aircraft Performances Stall speed = 90 kmh / 56 mph / 49 kts Cruise speed = 185 kmh / 115 mph / 100 kts Max speed = 209 kmh / 130 mph / 113 kts STOL performances Stall speed = 55 kmh / 34 mph / 29.5 kts Take off distance = 35 mt / 110 feet Climb rate = 1200 feet/min at 96 kmh / 60 mph / 52 kts Wing data: NACA 23015 Span = 8.0 mt / 26.2 ft Surface = 9.4 mq/101 sq ft Root wing chord = 1500 mm / 4.92 ft Tip wing chord = 750 mm / 2.46 ft Double slotted flap with leading edge slat electrically operated (manual back up) Stress rating = +6 / -3 G at 560 kg Empty weight = 300 kg (284 kg light version*) * small size wheels / special light upholstery / special light peinture / electronic instruments" Appears to have the ability of cruising at 100 kts and being able to bring it in at 30 kts... Rodger
Ultralights Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 i have been keeping an eye on this aircraft, seams to have everything i want in an aircraft, aparently it will be at Norromine this year with the new wing. though i was hopeing to test fly one of the standard wing. I was reading the website of the CH 701, about the Savannah, and its problem with the Strut cracking, is this been fixed yet? though i do find it ironic about Chris heinzt having a go at the savannah being an Inferior copy considering what he did with the Cri cri, that he copied, modified and sold as his own, yet more ironically when the mods he made proved fatal. that one was called the Cricket. If the Savannah suits my needs it will most likely be the next in the hangar.
River Posted May 27, 2006 Author Posted May 27, 2006 G'day 'Utlralights', as I will not be able to attend this years Natfly due again for work commitments. If the new Savannah is at the field would it be possible to take some close-up photos of the new wing, etc and post them on this site. Like yourself I have a serious interset in this new version if it's all up-to-spec as earlier reports state... Many thanks. Rodger
Smokey Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 Rodger What sort of photos of the wing are you after ? Technical shots of the control surfaces ? General layout shots ? For that matter, how much is a reasonable amount to post here ? Mark
Ultralights Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 i have a heap of all sorts of pics of savannah aircraft from all over the net, there all here http://home.exetel.com.au/pamuva/Savannah%20Aircraft%20Pics/
Ultralights Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 some pics of the new wing from Narromine (just got back this afternoon)
Ultralights Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 according to the pilot, the stated numbers are pretty accurate, but the extra cost is a big deterrent for me, i will probably explor this option, Removing the leading edge slat alltogether, and installing Vortex Generators on the Leading edge... as is here
River Posted May 27, 2006 Author Posted May 27, 2006 Rodger What sort of photos of the wing are you after ? Technical shots of the control surfaces ? General layout shots ? For that matter, how much is a reasonable amount to post here ? Mark G'day Mark, I was looking mainly regarding the new stol wing and how it's leading edge and flaps are linked, etc... Many thanks. Rodger
Smokey Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 Rodger Hope these cover what you're after, I've got more but they pretty well cover the same ground. I've cropped, reduced the resolution and increased compression substantially before posting, if you want the original, full photos drop me a line and I'll trickle them through to your private mail. Mark
River Posted May 27, 2006 Author Posted May 27, 2006 G'day Smokey, many thanks for the photos... I'll get back to you as to if I needed the originals. Would be interested to hear as to what opinion is on this aircraft as from the specs the performance appears quite good. Yours in recreational aviation, Rodger
Guest landman Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 Aloha, I have a Savannah Adv in a 40 ft container somewhere between the factory in Italy and the Big Island of Hawaii. It was just shipped last week so will probably take a couple of month. I am waiting.... Martin Oliver Real estate broker on the big island of Hawaii
Admin Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 G'day Martin, welcome to the forums - I bet the waiting is killing you knowing it's coming but not in your hands yet. Please make sure you keep us informed on how it's going and some pictures would be great!
Ultralights Posted June 2, 2006 Posted June 2, 2006 just a stupid quick question on the Savannah, although i have bene looking closely at this aircraft and will purchase a kit ASAP, i forget to check weather the Flaps operate over the full span of the wing or just the inner sections?? in other words, do the Ailerons become flaperons when flap is lowered? and another more out there question, would reflex flap improve cruise speed as it does in conventional wing/flap setups?? would a say -10 deg flap position provide any cruise advantage?
Smokey Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 Ultralights If you have a look at myphotos above you'll see a couple of shots with the flap down but the aileron neutral. So I would assume they are independant. One shot has a bit of droop on the aileron but judging from the others I think the stick was over. Whether you could link the ailerons as flaperons I don't know. Afraid I was just grabbing some photos for Rodger, I wasn't talking to the vendors. Mark
Guest landman Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 I posted a while back. Well my Savannah ADV finally got here. Eric from Skykits in Calgary Alberta Canada came all the way over to the Big Island of Hawaii todeliver it. He and his trusty helper Bruce did and excellent job of putting the wings on and getting all the FAA trapings out of the way. It flies just great. Everything is just as they say. You can see a picture of it on the Skykits web page. It is the one in the rain getting the Hawaiian blessing. So far the gods and the plane have been good to me. Martin...touch and go training in Hilo Hawaii
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