Vev Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Does anyone know what the (quality) replacement air fliter is for a 160 from the local auto parts shop? Part number will be useful too. Regards Jack
Ross Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I am under the impression that it is a standard Holden Commodore filter. Regards
Guest brentc Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Me too, just take it into the auto shop and they will say something like, 'oh, that is a VR commodore filter.'
Vev Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 Thanks Guys I'm mindful some brands are better than others as I dont want to get caught out with a cheap poor quality copy... any ideas? Regards Jack
jetjr Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Ryco parft number A360 Repco part number RAF17 No difference I can see but I use the Ryco one JR
Captain Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Has anyone looked at using one of the better quality after0-market specialist filters like a K&N or similar? I wonder whether they offer any advantage other than being reusable?
Guest Nelson Smith Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Haven't changed ours in 875 hrs.It has been gently blown out a couple of times,and if I can see through it and the plugs look good why bother. nelson
Vev Posted June 11, 2009 Author Posted June 11, 2009 Hi Nelson, Recently I flew my 160 Jab from Melbourne to Lake Eyre and other iconic inland locations … by the way, I had a ball and the Jab didn’t miss a beat. On my return to Melbourne I found a fine layer of red dust on the filter. I’m not sure if I picked this up from the dirt strips I used along the way or if this was dust in the atmosphere?? Never the less, I thought a replacement filter a cheaper option to maintain durability and performance than attempt to clean it. Best regards Jack
Ross Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Ryco filters were originally designed and manufactured by RYCO in Australia. They were taken over by GUD. They are now manufactured in China and imported back into Australia with the company, GUD Holdings, still Australian owned. Supposedly the design and testing continues in Australia after the manufacturing was moved to China.
Thruster87 Posted June 12, 2009 Posted June 12, 2009 My FWF kit for the 601xl with the 3300A came with the K&N reusable air filter from JAB USA
brilin_air Posted June 12, 2009 Posted June 12, 2009 You are right Jack, Airfilters and oil are the cheapest and best maintenance you can get, change them as many times as you think you need too, it's the same as changing the oil filter when you do an oil change, false economy if you don't. :thumb_up: Brian
Vev Posted June 12, 2009 Author Posted June 12, 2009 How do you clean a K&N filter? Does it have a long service life or do you have to replace it after a couple pof cleans? Regards Jack
Thruster87 Posted June 12, 2009 Posted June 12, 2009 How do you clean a K&N filter? Does it have a long service life or do you have to replace it after a couple pof cleans?Regards Jack You can buy a cleaning kit [spray clean then re-oil] which is very easy to use and the filter should last a life time in normal usage
Captain Posted June 12, 2009 Posted June 12, 2009 My FWF kit for the 601xl with the 3300A came with the K&N reusable air filter from JAB USA T Next time you have it out, will you please post the K&N model number back on here? Regards C
Thruster87 Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 TNext time you have it out, will you please post the K&N model number back on here? Regards C 33-2008-1 made in the USA. Cheers [i don't know if the airbox on the Jabs is the same size as on the 601xl]
facthunter Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Filters. I have never trusted a paper filter in very dusty conditions, and have had a lot of occasions to use the oiled foam, on motorcycles. You are supposed to clean them with detergent (not petrol) and warm water. This is not easy as the sticky filter oil , when it is combined with fine dust, takes a bit of removing. I have resorted to using petrol or kerosene at times, but I don't think this is recommended. The other aspect to this is that the filter when oiled, may not flow air so well and enrichen the mixture, causing reduced range. (unless you have manual mixture control and can correct it).. Rather than try to clean a filter on a trip, it is better to take a fresh oiled one in a sealed plastic bag. They don't weigh much. Nev
Vev Posted June 14, 2009 Author Posted June 14, 2009 Hi Nev, Thanks for the input. Just not clear on the reason you don't trust paper filters... can you please give me a little more detail behind your concerns? Regards Jack
Thruster87 Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Also don't over oil these filters, when used on engines[mainly cars] with intake oxygen sensors it can damage the sensor. Cheers
Guest brentc Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 For what they cost for the Jab from your local Repco shop I wouldn't consider using anything else! Mine did 400+ hours and I only replaced it because I thought it might need replacing, it was still brand new and not a grain of dirt came out when I tapped it on the ground and it had been to a lot of places!
Vev Posted June 15, 2009 Author Posted June 15, 2009 My flter has been in service for the past 275 hrs and has been been cleaning each 50hrs. I spoke with the Jabiru engine guys and they did say that dirty filters has been the cause of some poor engine power issues and recommend replacing if the filter becomes dirty. I guess personal choice in terms of filter manufacture is up to the owner .... Ive bought a Ryco A360 as the replacement from Super Cheap for $16.50 and think for the peace of mind this cost is not worth trying to avoid to maintain performance and durability and above all safety. Regards Jack
facthunter Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Filters (paper) Sorry about the delay. The paper filters that I had trouble with were on late model Fergusson 35's in the mallee. They would fill up with dust and bugger the engine big time. This is when you are in a lot of dust. Paper filters do not do the job in the bulldust covered roads in the outback either and I don't really know why. There never seems to be much dust in the filter so where does it go? the oiled foam ones are full of it, and could block up. I am tallking about extreme conditions , such as I have only encountered a couple of times, in aircraft.. Nev
Ross Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Making many assumptions a 2200 cc, 4 cylinder, 4 stroke engine running at 2850 RPM consumes the following volume of air in one hour. 2.2 litres / 2 (for a 4 stroke engine) x 2850 RPM x 60 minutes) litres of air/ hour 188,100 litres/hour 188.1 cubic metres/hour every hour If the same engine was running at 4,800 rpm it would consume 316.8 cu. metres per hour of air
facthunter Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Dust at altitude. In some dust storms in australia, you will get enough dust to significantly damage your engine at quite high altitudes. Nev
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