RA Pilots Flying Into our Major Cities

[Guest Pioneer200]

In New Zealand with our advanced microlight licence we are allowed into controlled airspace as long as we have a transponder and do not fly over built up areas(eg major city etc). So in theory we are allowed to land at the major airports with permission from the tower regarding traffic density at the time, I am planning on a touch and go @ Christchurch one day.

 

 

[Guest basscheffers]

A good idea for anyone not familiar with MBN would to get a copy of the free CASA publication visual pilot guide for Melbourne, there are also VPGs for Brisbane Sydeny and Perth, I'm not sure about Adelaide.

There is one for Adelaide, but not in PDF form. You can order the printed version, though.

 

 

[Guest Crezzi]

This is for the best.I know you don't want to hear this, but:

 

The hue and cry following an incident would be enormous.

 

The litigation following an accident would kill RAAus.

 

The probability of ICAO allowing such a departure from internationally convened standards? Nil.

 

We all read the horror stories of how third-world countries allow sub-standard conditions to persist despite fatalities, and about the airlines the EU bans from their airport due to safety breaches.

 

CASA allowing the proposed RAAus into CTA changes would turn Australia, in regulatory circles, into a pariah state.

Personally I'm inclined to agree that its for the best but I'm not convinced allowing RAAus into CTA departs from ICAO standards. I flew microlights for many years in the UK and there were no inherent restrictions on CTA access - with the amount of controlled airspace there it would be quite difficult if you weren't allow to request transit. Of course the controller isn't obliged to give you a clearance and, if your radio procedure isn't up to scratch the chances of access were dramatically reduced. I'm aware of other countries that also don't have a blanket restriction including, as Pioneer said, NZ.

 

Cheers

 

John

 

 

[Guest Elk McPherson]

You mean just like the US then, where LSA pilots can get a CTA endorsement?

...and where LSA is still a FAA Licence.

 

 

[Guest ozzie]

...and where LSA is still a FAA Licence.

Hey Elk i really do belive that the U.S. system of Light Sport Aircraft, Light Sport Pilot and FAR 103 is by far the best thing to have happened to this modern form of flying ever.

 

We should be alligning our Rec Flying system EXACTLY THE SAME. If we had we would not be going though the mess we are at the moment. As it is now we come across as a bunch of backwater hillbillies!!

 

 

[sleemanj]

I am planning on a touch and go @ Christchurch one day.

The instructors at Rangiora do trips into Christchurch from time to time as people need to do CTA work. If you wanted an instructor to go with you you'd be sure to find somebody, you can PM me and I'll put you in touch.

 

I flew microlights for many years in the UK and there were no inherent restrictions on CTA access

Indeed. In fact the not-over-built-up-areas restriction is also history in the UK for the majority of microlights, since last year.

 

I'm aware of other countries that also don't have a blanket restriction including' date=' as Pioneer said, NZ.[/quote']I think here, and in the UK possibly, that the CAA has a slightly tighter hold on (and therefore better understanding of) microlight's and their pilots, in that the CAA approves the training syllabus and other matters of operation for the organisation (RAANZ would be the closest to RAAus, but there are others), must issue the initial permits to fly for 2 seat aircraft, and all aircraft appear on the CAA register equally.I see that RAAus exec members recently visited RAANZ exec members, so here's hoping that perhaps RAANZ can show RAAus some ways in which they can get CASA on board for you guys.

[Guest Crezzi]

I think here, and in the UK possibly, that the CAA has a slightly tighter hold on (and therefore better understanding of) microlight's and their pilots, in that the CAA approves the training syllabus and other matters of operation for the organisation (RAANZ would be the closest to RAAus, but there are others), must issue the initial permits to fly for 2 seat aircraft, and all aircraft appear on the CAA register equally.

Thats maybe possible - certainly the UK microlight licence is actually issued by national CAA (I guess this is the point Mr Elk was making) though all the administration is by the microlight organisation. The syllabus is approved by CAA but so is the RAAus ops manual.

 

Its true that UK (& NZ) microlights are on the national register & operate on an annual permit to fly but the CTA restriction here is only on the pilot not the aircraft.

 

Cheers

 

John