About having an ASIC Card Poll?

[slartibartfast]

I just posted off my application yesterday to RAAus. Does anyone know roughly how long it is taking for them to be processed and returned at the moment?Regards

 

Wayne

Reading the posts lately Wayne, anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months.

 

It might depend on how good a citizen you've been until now.

 

Mine came a few weeks ago after 9-10 weeks wait.

 

Ross

 

 

[Guest pecram air]

Wallet Type

 

Looks great but you can only dis[play it (mid chest - as required ) if your shirt has a pocket.

 

Regards,

 

Phil C

 

 

[Whack777]

Thanks Ross...

 

 

[Admin]

Well, I have finally succumbed - sent off the ASIC application to the RAA office today so it will be interesting to see the time it will take from post to receipt. The date today is 30th May 2007....stay tuned

 

 

[Lamiunto]

I got mine back after waiting about 3 weeks. I was expecting it to be much longer because of my continuous moving around the planet. I have been to the UK, South Africa and now here, been here for 8 months and it seems the longest part of my wait was when I phoned and asked for the progress and they said it was in the "Card manufacturing stage", and that all the security checks were done in the first week!

 

Now that is really strange, maybe they were laughing so hard at my photo that it was disrupting office work, so the powers that be at CASA decided to get it out of there as soon as possible.

 

Anyway, we have an agreement here with the security people, you can stay inside the hangar without an ASIC, but the second you step beyond those railings on the ground, you are required to have an ASIC, or be escorted by someone with an ASIC. We have 2 security people here, and according to Peter (a grade one instructor and ATO) one of them is a real security nazi, who actually took some poor kids parents away in his car while they were video taping his flight. The other guy is very nice apparently, and gives you a warning and lecture.

 

I mainly got an ASIC so that I can do my daily inspections (aircraft are kept outside the hangar during most of the day) without someone standing with me just to show off some red piece of plastic. Also, now when Peter, or Trish (CFI) ask me to move some aircraft around the apron, or fuel one of them, I don't have to be escorted. So you can say I mainly got it for the freedom. It does get in the way when I am doing my inspections though. :;)1:

 

 

[rong]

After getting stuffed around with an ASIC appn 18 months ago which I withdrew on principle, I also succumbed recently. The system just wears you down to the point where it's easier to have it.

 

Received it on Friday exactly 14 days from dropping it into CASA at YMMB. The date on the letter was only 2 days before, so it hadn't been sitting around on someones desk, and it's valid for a full 2 years from the day it arrived.

 

Seems CASA have got their act together ... now I just hate the govt and DOTARS for introducing the thing in the first place.

 

Ron

 

 

[eastmeg2]

The previous time I looked at an ASIC application form from CASA I also tossed it into the "TOO HARD !!!" basket.

 

Just last week I came across the RAAus version of the application form and have to say that it has been greatly simplified and have just finished filling it in, just have to get 2 passport photo's and have an authorised RAAus person (CFI who already has an ASIC) sign it before I submit it.

 

 

[Guest disperse]

i ha dto get a asic card to carry amonium nitrate (dynamite) exacte same check....but do you think they can transfer it to one for airports or wharves for that mater.........Nah.......another $150 and probably 3 month wait

 

 

[Guest Biggles1]

ASIC Card/Avid Card

 

I believe that the law is that all pilots must have an ASIC or AVID card to fly in Australian airspace. The AVID card never seems to get a mention anymore since the powers that be legislated to have a charge for ASIC cards. The AVID card is free so they don't mention it, and it seems that the aviation fraternity have forgotten it also. The AVID card is valid unless one goes into an RPT airport. Are there any comments on this situation, and could it be usefull for our members?

 

Perhaps a poll on that subject might be interesting.

 

 

[Guest Decca]

Biggles take a look at www.casa.gov.au/fcl/licence/index.htm but in brief this is the drift:

 

ASICs must be renewed every 2yrs, initially with full security check, for $196, subsequent renewal $102.

 

AVIDs must be renewed every 5yrs, initially with full security check, for $181, subsequent renewal $171.

 

An ASIC is required if you need to enter the secure area of a security controlled airport that has RPT operations. So it’s unsaid that an AVID won’t suffice. In which case why does the AVID exist?

 

If I’ve read the blurb correctly, an AVID is a FLIGHT CREW LICENCE with an ID photo on it (like a driver’s licence).

 

Any other interpretations?

 

SURELY It would be sufficient for us to have our pilot certificates with ID photos & security clearance obtained by RAA (valid for 5 or so years).

 

Regards, Decca.

 

 

[Admin]

That's great Chris - remember we sent our 2 days apart so in theory mine should arrive on Monday :;)4:

 

 

[Admin]

Hmmmm, perhaps I have been a naughty boy

 

 

[Mazda]

ASICs must work, because since I've had mine I haven't been hijacked!

 

I've also found a good use for it. The black plastic thing it came in is double sided and holds a phoneaway card perfectly.

 

 

[Ross]

Hi Mazda

 

Mine came from RAA a couple of months after I applied for it in 2006 without any handy cover or folder or lanyard.

 

 

 

I eventually found a foldable "pension card holder" this year in my local paper shop that can allow it to be displayed by clipping it over a pocket with the smallest spring loaded paper clip that I could find there but the picture is then displayed in landscape mode rather than standing up in portrait style.

 

 

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I am not impressed with a card on a lanyard around my neck that could get entangled in items during an extreme situation and result in strangulation or drowning or getting trapped in a fire.

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

[facthunter]

ASIC.Card.

 

Think they are only required on CERTAIN aerodromes, and only in certain areas of those aerodromes. Relates to RPT. services & the designation of the specified area was left to the local authority. I don't believe that it has anything to do with you getting into the air, although I did see an advice from a senior public servant, that you would not be able to FLY anywhere without one, after a certain date. I believe that statement was retracted. I'm happy to be corrected on any of this. At least the one card can be used in all parts of australia, or is that not the case? Is the wearing of the card on a lanyard a requirement? I would not think it appropriate to wear it in the cockpit, Some of those ribbons are pretty strong, and you have enough junk hanging about already with headphone cables etc. hanging off your head. My Transit van represents a bigger threat to australia than my plane ever will. Whoops ...shouldn't have said that .. Now I'll have to get another card N...

 

 

[Kaz]

Good lanyards come with a safety clip that opens when it snags. I would recommend to everyone who wears a lanyard to get this type as it may save your life... arm... head... etc. I believe they are mandatory in operational/manufacturing environments for OH&S reasons, certainly they have been everywhere I have worked.

 

 

[PaulN]

Good lanyards come with a safety clip that opens when it snags.

I bought mine from the RA-Aus stand at Natfly this year, it has this feature. I'm sure they'd be happy to hear from anyone wanting a new (and safe) lanyard.

 

Paul

 

 

[Admin]

Finally got my ASIC card in the mail from the RAA last Friday 13th July (hmmm :;)4:) so the application was sent off on Monday the 28th May therefore total time was about 1.5 months (7 weeks).

 

 

[eastmeg2]

Also got my ASIC card last Friday (13th) after sending my application to RAAus about 20th June, I must have lucked out with the timing of their batches. Now I also need to get a holder or 2 for it. It currently lives amongst my credit cards in my wallet.

 

Cheers,

 

Glen

 

 

[HEON]

Fairly recently visited a western Qld airfield which had been inclosed with a high mesh fence (ie.a lot of fence and thus $'s) with one gate not locked and the other not fitted although the word "gate"was written where it should have been. Since my visiting J160 was the only aircraft there I felt the expenditure of funds on both the security of the strip and my required ASIC card was good value for money to prevent the J160 being hijacked and crashed into ???......I DONT THINK SO.

 

 

[BlueSideUp]

It is interesting that the planes that flew into the World Trade Centre were hijacked in the US but we are the ones with the crappy cards.

 

Any one that believes that a card will make a shred of difference to someone wanting to get up to mischief is kidding themselves. You could go to any of the people that supply the gear to make plastic cards and make a half decent copy that would pass muster in no time.

 

It has been more a decision to be seen to be doing something rather than any improvement to security.

 

 

[1946]

ASIC Cost gone up

 

As of Monday the 3rd September the cost of the ASIC card rose another $40.00, CASA Charge is $195.00 and Aviation ID in Merimbula is $182.00. This all due to the @#$69&* goverment placing a surcharge on the processing of the cards. I have no idea of the turnaround times for either place but if the inital experience with CASA is any thing to go by, applied in May, received on the final days of December, backdated to October of that year, so instead of the full 24month I was suposed to get, I got 21 instead, but still had to pay the full amount, money grabbing or what.

 

 

[BlueSideUp]

After the Chaser's little stunt at APEC it just shows how easy it is to fool people.

 

And their cards were deliberately made to be wrong ....... if they had gone to the trouble of making them look real they may well have got all the way and been able to have a coffee with Bush :big_grin:

 

 

[Guest AVU]

Hi Gang.

 

Magnetic strips do not damage each other or wipe out data, as proven by the Myth Busters on SBS some months ago.

 

Cheers.

 

Steve

 

 

[Guest ozzie]

I visited a couple of clients at Sydney's international terminal last week. I had to be processed at the security office and recieved a "sterile visitor" sticker to stick on my shirt. escorted from the office by clients rep and off to airside. job done process repeated with other client. end of job leave. no check out by security and safe disposal of pass.

 

processing on this visit was a lot faster than previous times as no photo taken.

 

still a few holes to plug. shoulda sent them to chasers.