Guest ozzie Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I've never really liked "turbochargers" The only aircraft i have worked on that had them were the Chieftan and a Bonanza. Pain to work on. and when they failed in the field the power loss was more than if they wern't fitted in the first place Not to mention the fires that have been started when a oil feed line breaks. I had a turbo 4WD and it was pretty useless when you had to crawl low revs there was no power down low. useless. crankshaft driven supercharger much better produces power from idle, runs cooler as not being driven by hot exhaust. Mechcanically more reliable ect. Can also look good polished up on the coffee table Ozzie
Tomo Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 After all that talk about turbos, he shows us a blower....you are a legend Tomo. Thought I'd rope you in! So superchargers don't blow?!
Guest Qwerty Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Thought I'd rope you in! So superchargers don't blow?! I'm starting to think that you do!!!!!:hittinghead:
Tomo Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I'm starting to think that you do!!!!!:hittinghead: Nah, I don't or haven't... naturally aspirated you see!
Tomo Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I'm afeared I could go on for ever with one liners, confusing all and sundry... Here's a bit of technical information from my manual for those interested, Qwerty is just into trying to confuse me instead, I'm a thinking. Though I think it turned tables! :ah_oh: The term "blower" is commonly used to define a device placed on engines with a functional need for additional airflow using a direct mechanical link as its energy source. The term blower is used to describe different types of super chargers. A screw type super charger, Roots type super charger, and a centrifugal super charger are all types of blowers. Conversely, a turbocharger, using exhaust compression to spin its turbine, and not a direct mechanical link, is not generally regarded as a "blower" but simply a "turbo". :big_grin: Ps. There you go Qwerty, see if you can twist that!
Guest Qwerty Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I'm afeared I could go on for ever with one liners, confusing all and sundry...Here's a bit of technical information from my manual for those interested, Qwerty is just into trying to confuse me instead, I'm a thinking. Though I think it turned tables! :ah_oh: The term "blower" is commonly used to define a device placed on engines with a functional need for additional airflow using a direct mechanical link as its energy source. The term blower is used to describe different types of super chargers. A screw type super charger, Roots type super charger, and a centrifugal super charger are all types of blowers. Conversely, a turbocharger, using exhaust compression to spin its turbine, and not a direct mechanical link, is not generally regarded as a "blower" but simply a "turbo". :big_grin: Ps. There you go Qwerty, see if you can twist that! That is exactly what I said, I am pleased with your progress Tomo, good work, keep it up.
Tomo Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Pheww we have head way! Supercharger is a Blower, Blower a is supercharger, Terminology, don't you just love it? What about the old blower you talked into? Was it turbo, or super charged ?
Guest Qwerty Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Supercharger is a Blower, ........ Not neccessarily, you just don't get it do you Tomo. They are ALL superchargers. There are two sub-groups of superchargers, Turbochargers and Blowers and they are different :hittinghead::hittinghead::hittinghead::hittinghead::hittinghead::hittinghead:
Tomo Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 You have me confused now... I think we are going round is circles :black_eye: Isn't a Super Charger just that!? (or commonly known as a blower) How can there be two sup groups of superchargers? A turbocharger uses a Turbine to drive the compressor impeller. So In my understanding how can you get a Supercharged Turbocharger in the one unit? Because one uses a mechanical drive and one uses a Turbine. Sure you can link the two together, but thats not the point. Please explain Qwerty, I'm open to learning... :thumb_up: The 8V71T GM I rebuilt the other day had a Blower (supercharger) and a Turbo. :Norton:
Guest Qwerty Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Sorry mate I can't state it simpler that my previous post A turbocharger is a supercharcher A Blower is a suprecharger They are all superchargers, a turbocharger is one type and a blower is another type. Turbos and blowers are different types of suprechargers. Q. What have a computer and Tomo got in common? A. You have to punch information into them.:baldy:
Tomo Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Ok Qwerty you're gonna be happy I finally worked out what you were trying to say all along. Went through a few different manuals this afternoon and finally found one that says the same as you. So was able to see what you were on about. Terminology for ya! Thanks :thumb_up: Interesting Analogy you got there
Guest Qwerty Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Hey Stretch, are you going to Temora. If you do, wear that cap so I can pick you out.:thumb_up:
Tomo Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I'm really really really, hoping to be going to Temora... and if so I'll possibly be wearing a Rec Flying hat when Young Darky gets them sorted. But don't worry, if you don't find me, I'll be looking for you! :big_grin: Regards, Stretch.
Guest Qwerty Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 You paid no attention to Ian did you????????? Do you think Darky will have the caps sorted by then????? I dont think she can make a decision, looks like she is waiting for the jury to return.
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