Keep a good lookout when lining up, please

[Guest magcheck]

Darky, Possibly GA pilots who have never accepted ULs, and probabily never will, they choose to deliberatly 'not see'

could also have been any type without a radio noting its a CTAF without the ®

 

 

[Guest Maj Millard]

Well darky would know what type of aircraft wouldn't she ?.......................................

 

 

[turboplanner]

pmk your point about the second Ac is valid, but (and this has nothing to do with Darky:

 

Pilot solo experience - 0.8 hrs

 

Already one sudden disruption

 

Instructor not on the ground with full visibility

 

No transmission from Instructor to violating aircraft, student left to own devices

 

Pilot of that experience has good reason to be concerned

 

Not so long ago we lost a young pilot on second or third solo who firstly had to contend with an unexpected go round, achieved that with possibly a high degree of stress, then was called cross field to join downwind leg before he reached the end of the runway, never before experienced, and collided with a downwind AC.

 

With more hours and some experience with threading into traffic, yes there may not be an issue with the second one.

 

 

[DarkSarcasm]

Maj, the first aircraft was a Jabiru (with RA-Aus rego) - and he did have a radio since he made radio calls. Can't remember what the second was.

 

Yes, the second one might not have really been an issue since I was able to land after it but I included it because it still lined up when I was on final - which, as far as I can remember, is a violation of the 'give way to aircraft on final' rule...

 

 

[Mazda]

It's most likely that you weren't seen. Sometimes people don't really look, sometimes they assume, sometimes sun is an issue, sometimes they line up so they can't see, sometimes in high wings it is difficult to see the approach. There are several reasons. It shouldn't happen, but it does, and it will!

 

 

[motzartmerv]

Yea, Turbo has a good point. .8 solo time, with no instructor watching is a little strange. He/ she is still supervising the flight and responsible.

 

Another thing to remember is jabs are very difficult to see. Easily missed when on final, especially on washed out days against a grey background.

 

 

[DarkSarcasm]

with no instructor watching is a little strange..

Just to clarify, I don't know if that was the case or not in my situation. I assume he was watching but saw I was handling it fine and decided not to intervene.

 

Perhaps if my going around call had been clearly stressed/panicked or something then someone would've stepped in but since I was completely calm (just irritated) then they could tell I was handling it fine. Dealing with this sort of situation is all part of flying solo.

 

Maybe the other aircraft didn't see/hear me, I've no idea, I was just putting this out here so people would keep it in mind next time they fly :)

 

 

[dunlopdangler]

You've done well Darky, being a low time pilot will have challenges and rewards and there will always be the need to plan ahead and have a plan B sorted. Remember all flights regardless.. have a "where are you now...where are you going and how do you get there scenario. even in the circuit...once you take off you are going to do four more legs to get it back on the ground, in a circuit you should plan "B" for different circumstances, for instance on crosswind another aircraft may join on downwind for a full stop and you are to follow in and need to adjust your airspeed/leg to accommodate..plan your actions early for a go around for cases such as you experienced (or even for a windshift that might catch you out) and the last bit of advice is to try not to get too irritated with others...stay calm and use the go-around as just another bit of practice. I even had to do a go-around at evans head at the fly-in where I was following traffic and called base and a fellow flying behind me in a jab cut in on a closer base and landed in front of me causing me to go-around and enjoy another couple of minutes in the air...it all sorted out...did not upset me and only show up poor airmanship on his part to those who were taking any notice at the time as a few people who met me on the ground commented. :ah_oh: