Sloper Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Goodaye all Has any body got a list of mnemonics used in training? l have never used them in the past but my instructor qoutes them often to me. There are a few listed in Bob Taits book but not the ones we use. regards Bruce
Mazda Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Not a list as such. Are you talking mostly about acronyms as mnemonics? Which ones are you after? ROARS, CIGARS, BUMFISH, CLEAROF, HASELL, CFMOST, PUFC, FROST, lights camera action?
Sloper Posted March 11, 2010 Author Posted March 11, 2010 Yes acrnyms, is ther anywher with them listed? regards Bruce
Mazda Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 AIP has a few, but not the training ones as such. Can you ask your school for the ones they commonly use? Are there any particular ones you are unsure about?
Sloper Posted March 11, 2010 Author Posted March 11, 2010 Only those l have forgot. Not use to learning this way. On a side note l usally feel exhursted after my lesson all that concentration. Anybody else feel the same early on?? regards Bruce
facthunter Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Nemonics. Don't take any notice of me. As far as I'm concerned there is little standardisation and you have to remember TWO things, the nemonic and then what it MEANS. Some times the action has to have such a weird description to make the nemonic make sense as a word that the meaning can be a lot confusing.. All planes require different actions depending on their systems/configurations, and in an emergency you might want to abreviate it (of necessity) so ...... Nev
Tomo Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 On a side note l usally feel exhursted after my lesson all that concentration.Anybody else feel the same early on?? G'day Bruce, Feeling exhausted after your lessons is quite normal for everyone, it is a pretty demanding hour for those first 10hrs or so, you are trying to learn as much as possible (take it in), plus try and do what your supposed to do, etc etc.... then the frustration as you thought you knew it, then can't seem to do it again etc... it's a very exhausting thing! But the good news is, it will get better and better, you'll have more and more fun, and then it's the best ever! and just gets better after that! :thumb_up: Keep at it! :thumb_up: As for acronyms, at first you'll find it hard to remember them, but like everything, once you do it over and over... you'll begin to wonder what all the fuss was about! Different pilots/schools use slightly different ones sometimes, but you'll generally pick up what ever the instructor says. Make sure they are reasonably simple, so you don't have to work out the spelling (if you can call it that!) is to ensure you got everything!
Mazda Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Yes, Bruce, it is pretty normal to feel tired, and it does take a while to learn all that new information. It would help to have a notebook and write down things as you go.
Bubbleboy Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Hi Bruce...yes I recall splitting headaches in the early lessons. Most was wondering how my instructor could sit there calmly when I was convinced I had no control! I obviously did but the stress! Scotty :hittinghead:
Thx1137 Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 I usually got a mild headache and needed a nap not long after I got home. It was probably for about the first 15 hours or so for me.
Batesy Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 If you're planning on venturing into Controlled Airspace, I use a simple acronym to jot down the clearance. The first letter is written vertically like this; C - leared to (destination, where ever) R - oute (the route atc wants you to take) A - ltitude F - requency after departure (sometimes relevant) T - ransponder (4 digit squawk code) In an example; ATC's call to you 'Bravo tango romeo, you're cleared to parafield coastal off shore via outer harbour, then planned route. maintain 1500, squawk 3404.' Written like this; C PPF R coastal outer harbour (can just use a shorter version, its just for short term memory) A 1500 F ---- T 3404 Hope this helps!
JollyWalter Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 C - leared to (destination, where ever) R - oute (the route atc wants you to take) A - ltitude F - requency after departure (sometimes relevant) T - ransponder (4 digit squawk code) There's another acronym that fits there, and it applies to me after most lessons: C - Can't R - Remember A - A F - Flippin' (or substitute your favourite F word) T - Thing
facthunter Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 Also. Just write it down on your scribble pad/flight plan and read it back from there. Then you have confirmed what you have recorded. Nev
rescue Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 A couple I have been taugh Pre landing checks ( performed on downwind ) Used for all aircraft types and say but skip through the ones which do not apply to your particular flying machine. May apply when you fly a different aircraft. BUMFISH B = Brakes Off, Test Brakes U = Undercarriage Down & Locked ( or in a Jabiru - still attached ) M = Mixture full rich ( again may not apply but one day you may need to check ) F = Fuel Qty, Fuel Pump on, Fuel Pressure. Correct feed selected, Carb Heat if required I = Instruments All Normal readings Temp, Pressure, (T&P's) S = Switches Magnetos on. Landing Light on, H = Hatches and Harnesses ( locked, secure, Hope this helps
Guest rocketdriver Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 A couple I have been taughPre landing checks ( performed on downwind ) Used for all aircraft types and say but skip through the ones which do not apply to your particular flying machine. May apply when you fly a different aircraft. BUMFISH B = Brakes Off, Test Brakes U = Undercarriage Down & Locked ( or in a Jabiru - still attached ) M = Mixture full rich ( again may not apply but one day you may need to check ) F = Fuel Qty, Fuel Pump on, Fuel Pressure. Correct feed selected, Carb Heat if required I = Instruments All Normal readings Temp, Pressure, (T&P's) S = Switches Magnetos on. Landing Light on, H = Hatches and Harnesses ( locked, secure, Hope this helps Hi Rescue .... For me, there is a P between M and F P for Primer closed and locked (if relevent) and Pitch fully fine when an adjustable or constant speed prop is fitted ... I still use the P even in a JAB And as for carb heat, I tend to do this at the point of reducing the power ... I reduce the power a little, apply carb heat and then set descent power .... I do it this way as good practice to stay well clear of detonation at higher power settings. Its probably not necessary but it makes me feel better!
Guest rocketdriver Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 G'day Rocket I know!...I'm being fussy!! Hi CFI ..... I like fussy when we are talking about getting it right! ... and I take your point about applying the carby heat whilst the engine is producing power .... I guess my first move is in fact to make sure we are at a moderate power setting by the time the carby heat is on ... regards RD
dunlopdangler Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 and when all else fails...use a checklist:contract:
Tomo Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 and when all else fails...use a checklist:contract: :thumb_up::thumb_up:
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