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CEO and Director of Aviation Safety Shane Carmody comments: With 2019 rapidly drawing to a close it’s time to reflect on the achievements of the past 12 months and look ahead to the challenges of the near future. In a recent speech to the Regional Aviation Association of Australia I set out my current five priorities. They cover finalising the remaining civil aviation safety regulations, improving service delivery through digital enhancements, finalising the plain English guide to the new operating rules, the successful transition to new fatigue rules and remotely piloted aircraft systems. Work on the three remaining civil aviation safety regulations - parachuting, sport and recreational aviation operations and balloons – is progressing well. Manuals of standards to support the package of operating regulations is also well advanced and will be completed next year. Longstanding concerns over the new fatigue rules have been addressed and there is now broad support for this approach. The new fatigue rules commenced on 2 September this year, with transition to be completed during 2020. In addition we have a number of large initiatives underway to improve the way CASA does business. The first is known as service delivery transformation – best described as our big ‘client facing’ project. The intent is for you to get services from CASA much more quickly and simply than in the past. Significant improvements have already been made and we are working on others such as an on-line digital aircraft registration system and an electronic pilot licensing system. The second is our regulatory services and surveillance transformation initiative. This is our entry control and surveillance project which will see us improve the way we manage a wide range of tasks, utilising a more targeted and streamlined approach. A key outcome of this project will be greatly improved consistency in decision making. We will achieve this by creating one central area, which we are currently calling a guidance centre, through which all questions will come and from which all answers will flow. No longer will we have different interpretations from different inspectors or different regions. A lot has been achieved during 2019 and with the initiatives we have in train there will be many more runs on the board during the year ahead. As always the goal is maintaining our strong aviation safety record and constantly focusing on the evolving nature of risk. Please read my speech to find out more about our priorities and current issues. Best wishes Shane Carmody Updates Service and surveillance improving CASA is making important changes to the way it delivers regulatory services and surveillance functions for air operators, maintenance organisations, flight training organisations and other aviation organisations. A new operating model is being finalised to make a range of improvements in key areas. The goals are to deliver nationally consistent guidance to the aviation community, ensure the effective and efficient processing of applications and submissions and to better focus CASA surveillance on risk. One of the key features of the proposed new operating model is the segregation of CASA’s guidance, entry control and surveillance functions. By segregating these functions CASA will be able to better manage regulatory and service dealings with aviation organisations. The aim is for CASA to be fairer, quicker and consistent. Underpinning the new operating model will be the provision of centralised entry and exit points for doing business with CASA, national support services to improve consistency and enhanced processes and systems. These changes will represent a new way of working for CASA and will mean some changes for some aviation organisations. To make sure aviation organisations are aware of the coming changes and benefits, CASA will be talking to operators and holding local briefings. Charter maintenance policy open for comment Comment now on future requirements for maintenance and continuing airworthiness for the charter sector. A policy proposal is open for feedback until 22 December 2019. Under the new Civil Aviation Safety Regulations charter operations will be part of the air transport category and be covered by Parts 121, 135 or 133 - depending on the aircraft, weight and passenger capacity. Continuing airworthiness requirements need to be adjusted to be compatible with this new regulatory framework and to ensure they are appropriate for each sector of air transport operations. The proposed policy puts forward changes in areas such as continuing airworthiness management, who may carry out maintenance, maintenance performance rules and approved maintenance organisations. In developing the policy CASA has worked to ensure regulatory requirements are proportionate to the risk associated with the relevant operations and has considered the economic and cost impact on individuals, businesses and the community. The proposed changes will supersede the requirements in Parts 4, 4A and 4B of the Civil Aviation Regulations that currently apply to charter aircraft operations. Seven information sessions are being held around the nation during December 2019 to provide details of the proposals and to answer questions. Have your say on the proposed maintenance and continuing airworthiness policy. Book a place at an information session now. Ballina broadcast area Due to an increase in air traffic at Ballina a new radio broadcast area is being established. All aircraft operating within 10 nautical miles of the Ballina/Byron Gateway aerodrome, from the ground to 8,500 feet above mean sea level, will be required to make radio calls. The change will take effect on 5 December 2019. The broadcast area will enhance communication in the vicinity of Ballina and reduce the incidence of unknown visual flight rules aircraft conflicting with regular public transport aircraft. CASA has received safety occurrence data and formal feedback from operators about aircraft not making recommended radio broadcasts in the vicinity of Ballina/Byron Gateway aerodrome. The use of VHF radio in the broadcast area will now be compulsory. The Common Traffic Advisory Frequency at Ballina, Lismore, Casino and Evans Head remains unchanged at 124.2 MHz. Aeronautical publication charts will be updated as soon as possible. Pilots in the new broadcast area should still keep a look out for other aircraft as some pilots may not yet be aware of the radio requirements. Brush up on radio procedures in non-controlled airspace. ADS-B final deadlines loom Two temporary instruments to allow some aircraft operators longer to fit automatic surveillance dependent-broadcast equipment will expire in 2020. This means anyone relying on these instruments to continue to fly their aircraft under the instrument flight rules needs to act soon. The instruments will not be extended, so any aircraft not fitted with ADS-B will have to fly by visual flight rules only. The two instruments - CASA 114/16 for Australian registered aircraft and CASA 113/16 for foreign registered aircraft - expire at midnight 1 January 2020 and midnight 6 June 2020 respectively. ADS-B transmitting equipment mandates have been progressively implemented in Australia since 2007. The final mandate, requiring all aircraft operating under the instrument flight rules to be equipped with 1090 MHz extended squitter ADS-B, took effect on 2 February 2017. Aircraft in breach of the mandate that are not operating under an exemption may incur a fine for non-compliance. Find out more about ADS-B. Civil Aviation Act changed Amendments to the Civil Aviation Act were passed by Federal Parliament in October 2019 and came into effect November 2019. The Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development, Michael McCormack, said the amendments will ensure economic and cost impacts on aircraft operators are considered when CASA develops aviation safety standards. Mr McCormack said the changes are designed to support a regulatory environment that continues to maintain safety as the highest priority without unnecessarily restricting innovation and growth. “This amendment is one element of the Liberal and National Government’s support of aviation which also includes the new Regional Airports Program, the Women in Aviation initiative, continuation of the Remote Airstrip Upgrade Program and the increase to the student Higher Education Loan Program loan limit,” Mr McCormack said. “Aviation continues to evolve but remains an essential ingredient to the economic success of this nation, and the Liberal and National Government is committed to ensuring its aviation policies continue to help sustain a strong and viable Australian aviation industry. I also acknowledge the bipartisan support on the amendment by the Labor party and its ongoing support on aviation safety matters.” Changes to publications Airservices Australia is no longer providing a number of CASA document services. This affects the Civil Aviation Order amendment service, Civil Aviation Advisory Publication Complete and Civil Aviation Advisory Publication Operational Complete publications and subscriptions services. From mid October 2019, the CAO and CAAP subscription service ceased being available for purchase or renewal. All current CAO and CAAP amendment subscriptions will run until they have expired. From November 2020, the paper-based version of the CAAP Complete, CAAP Operational Complete and amendments will no longer be available for purchase. Airservices, through its agent CanPrint, will continue to sell the CAO complete publication, which will be updated twice per year commencing in 2021. The changes to the way the publications are available has been driven by the fact that many people in the Australian aviation community have moved away from paper-based products and they are now easily accessed electronically. Civil Aviation Orders and Civil Aviation Advisory Publications are available for free from the CASA website. Find out more about Airservices publications. Get Civil Aviation Orders and Civil Aviation Advisory Publications for free. In brief All CASA offices will be shut from 25 December 2019 to 1 January 2020. Normal services will resume on Thursday 2 January 2020. Please get in early if services are needed around the holiday period as applications lodged at the last minute are unlikely to be processed before the shutdown. CASA staff will be on call for urgent aviation safety matters over the Christmas-New Year period – simply call 131 757 and follow the prompts. Give the gift of safety this Christmas. An annual subscription to the Flight Safety Australia magazine print edition is the perfect present for everyone in aviation. Or pick up some back issues in stock now for your holiday reading. Available at the CASA online store. Remember, CASA’s Brisbane office has moved to a new CBD address at 180 Ann Street, Brisbane. Telephone numbers remain the same. New forms are available for operations involving the carriage of firearms or the carriage and discharge of firearms from an aircraft. The forms help to make the firearms application process simpler as they more clearly outline requirements. Guidance material is also provided. Full information on CASA’s website. Be safer – get to an AvSafety seminar More than 95 per cent of pilots who take part in an AvSafety seminar consider it makes them a safer pilot or changes their safety behaviour. That means it is important to attend an AvSafety seminar in your area. The theme of the current seminars is ‘expect the unexpected’. Topics covered include pre-flight planning, aeronautical decision making and checklists. Several case studies are examined covering weather, fuel, weight and balance and airspace infringements. The importance of in-flight decision making is also covered, including some of the traps in decision making. Checklists are discussed, with several safety occurrences examined where the correct use of a checklist may have stopped an incident or accident occurring. In December 2019 AvSafety seminars are being held at: Warnervale Bankstown Bunbury. Book a place at a pilot safety seminar now. Horsham engineers seminar An AvSafety seminar for engineers is being held in Horsham in December 2019. The theme of the seminar is ‘the human component’. Three key topics will be covered - engineering errors and the lessons learnt, the human component of engineering and proposed new general aviation maintenance and continued airworthiness regulations. The focus will be on exploring the human component of engineering and the cost factors involved in maintenance errors. Importantly there will also be discussion about the proposed Part 43 general aviation maintenance regulations for private and air work operations. CASA’s aviation safety advisors welcome discussions and questions. The Horsham seminar is being held on Wednesday 11 December at the Horsham Aero Club. Book a place now for the Horsham seminar.

I am not completely happy with the new Accidents Media section and not sure if there is a better way to have accidents listed that will help to educate and invoke discussion. Do I just move the media reports as threads to the Accidents and Incidents forum or keep going as I am...or what else could I do to make it a better solution...your thoughts?

While fatal accidents in amateur-built aircraft remain at historic lows, a slight increase in the total for the last 12-month reporting period shows the continuing necessity for dedicated educational efforts to push the total even lower, according to officials with the Experimental Aircraft Association. The FAA reports that for the 12-month period from Oct. 1, 2018, to Sept. 30, 2019, fatal accident totals for the experimental category overall, including amateur-built aircraft, racing aircraft, those used for exhibit only, research-and-development, and some types of light-sport aircraft, rose to 52 — five above the FAA’s “not to exceed” goal of 47 for the period. Of that total, 39 fatal accidents were in amateur-built aircraft, an increase of four from the previous reporting period. The FAA measures accident totals on an October through September annual basis to coincide with the federal government’s fiscal year. The National Transportation Safety Board also reported in November 2019 that fatal accidents in all categories of general aviation increased in calendar year 2018 after several years of decline. “What this increase tells us is that enhancing safety is not simply a target number to be reached, but a continual effort to build on the positive foundation we have already established,” said Sean Elliott, EAA’s vice president of advocacy and safety. “We are pleased that the accident totals remain below the challenge goal FAA issued to us in 2010, when the agency asked us to reduce the accident rate by 10% over the ensuing decade. It is not enough to simply reach a number however. We must keep a steady focus on making improvements, especially as the number of general aviation flight hours have increased over the past several years.” Elliott noted that the overall fatal accident numbers for experimental category aircraft remain much lower than other recreational pursuits, such as boating, skiing and snowboarding, and driving all-terrain vehicles. EAA has worked closely with the FAA and NTSB on recommendations to reduce fatal accidents, including through participation in the FAA General Aviation Joint Steering Committee that EAA has co-chaired for the past three years. Efforts have also included more than 2,500 copies of the EAA Flight Test Manual now in the hands of amateur-built aircraft owners and the increasing use of an additional safety pilot during initial flight testing in amateur-built aircraft. “With already very small numbers involved, a few additional accidents can create a percentage-rate anomaly, so it’s important to focus on driving the overall accident numbers lower,” Elliott said. “We must focus on training, situational awareness, and good pilot skills to complement the ever-improving technology that is part of today’s aircraft cockpits.”

Be heard, be seen, be safe at Ballina Flying in and out of Ballina will be changing from Thursday 5 December 2019. Due to the increase in air traffic in the area, all aircraft flying between the surface and 8,500 feet within 10 nautical miles will be required to make radio calls. This change is to improve the situational awareness of pilots flying in and out of Ballina. The Common Traffic Advisory Frequency (CTAF) at Ballina, Lismore, Casino and Evans Head will remain unchanged (124.2 MHz). This information has been published via NOTAM for Ballina and a supplement for the Aeronautical Information Package (AIP). Chart updates will occur in May next year. You can also view the instrument on the Federal Register of Legislation. Whilst this change is being implemented to improve pilot situational awareness, it is important to still maintain a good visual look out for other aircraft. If you are unsure of what radio calls to use in uncontrolled airspace, you can view our operations and non-controlled aerodromes webpage and download our Be heard, be seen, be safe – radio procedures in non-controlled airspace booklet.

Hi everyone in the gliding fraternity...do any of you remember a guy by the name of Dennis Sumner?

Posts have had to be removed due to racism. This site does not support these types of posts...please help to keep this a great site for everyone, thanks

The ability to upload attachments along with many other extra features are only available to First Class Members as they help to support the site...sorry about that...you could become a First Class Member if you like

Click on your avatar at the top of the menu and from the popout click one of the options there like "Account Settings"

I think it's a good idea...In The Clubhouse set of forums...any thoughts on this (funnies will be combined) General Off Topic - for all the general stuff Politics and Religion - politics yes but not sure about religion Autos and Bikes - cars and motorcycles and boats and trains etc Sports or Health - most people when they get together, especially in Melbourne talk sports but I also wonder about whether we could help each other in terms of health

The next question is whether or not to merge both the jokes/funnies forums together? We have Aviation Laughter forum here and have Funnies forum on the Whats Up site

Is that 6:60 pm or 7:00 pm OME

Yes, that was planned if it went ahead

I am looking at condensing the Whats Up Australia site (www.whatsupaustralia.com.au) forums down into say just 4 forums and migrating them back into here at Recreational Flying. The Whats New will have a new sub menu for just the Off Topic forums so any Off Topic posts won't interfere with the main Aviation Whats New entries. The IMPORTANT thing is I want to hear from you all on your thoughts on this before I do it so PLEASE speak up what you think, every answer/post is correct and very informative so EVERYONE please have your say...thanks and I greatly appreciate it

CEO and Director of Aviation Safety Shane Carmody comments: As most people will know a substantial package of new regulations comes into force from early 2021. The flight operations suite of regulations covers the general operating and flight rules, air transport certification and governance, air transport operations for aeroplanes and rotorcraft and aerial work. The new regulations retain many of the existing requirements, but for some people and organisations changes will need to be made. That means CASA will have a firm focus over the next 12 months on making sure the aviation community is given appropriate support to transition to the new regulations. We are committed to making the rule transition as easy as we can. CASA will provide extensive guidance material on the new regulations well ahead of their commencement. This will include a mapping tool showing where a rule is in the current regulations compared to where you can find it in the new rules. In the first half of 2020 we will release the new manuals of standards for the flight operations regulatory parts, which will set out in detail what is required for compliance. We will also release sample manuals for aviation organisations to make completing the necessary paperwork an easier job. CASA will hold face-to-face information sessions in metropolitan and regional areas, and we will target information to different aviation sectors. We will also be making sure there is additional time to comply with the more complex requirements in the new regulations. There will be more time allowed for introducing safety management systems and training and checking systems, as well as fitting terrain awareness and warning equipment to aircraft. CASA will consult with the aviation community on these arrangements through our normal processes. I am currently writing to aviation organisations to set out in detail information about the transition to the new regulations and the support CASA will be offering. If anyone feels CASA should do more in a particular area please let us know and we will be more than happy to look at potential additional measures. The aim is to make the regulatory transition as light a burden as is possible for everyone. Best wishes Shane Carmody Updates More online services CASA’s online services continue to grow, with businesses and other organisations the latest to benefit. From 28 October 2019, Australian businesses and organisations will be able to apply for a CASA aviation reference number online through the myCASA portal. Using the myCASA portal - which is accessed from the CASA website - will make the process of getting an aviation reference number quicker and easier for companies, statutory authorities, government entities, sole traders, co-operatives and incorporated companies or associations. Individuals have been able to get their aviation reference number online for some time. To apply online businesses must have an ABN and the individual applying on behalf of the business or organisation must have a myCASA account and an individual aviation reference number. Foreign organisations such as businesses or government bodies will still need to complete the manual aviation reference number application form. Aviation reference numbers are used by CASA to identify clients and are needed before any licence, permission or authorisation can be issued. Find out more about aviation reference numbers for business and organisations. New Brisbane office CASA’s Brisbane office is on the move. Staff in Brisbane are relocating to a CBD location - 180 Ann Street. The move to the new offices takes place on Friday 8 November 2019. On that day normal services from the Brisbane office will be disrupted. Brisbane-based staff and services will not be available by telephone or email from 1.30pm on Friday 8 November. Brisbane-based services include the issue of aviation industry authorisations, drone general enquiries, commercial remotely piloted aircraft services and drone complaint services. People needing these services from the Brisbane office during the move will be asked to wait until Monday 11 November 2019, when the new office in Ann Street will be open for business. CASA apologises for any inconvenience. All other CASA offices will be open for normal business. Class C tower recommended at Hobart A review of Hobart airspace has recommended the introduction of a Class C tower service supported by Class C terminal airspace. The review, conducted by CASA’s Office of Airspace Regulation, said Airservices Australia should submit an airspace change proposal within 12 months. The 2019 airspace review of Hobart said there is an opportunity for Airservices to enhance the level of service provided and the efficiency of controlled airspace. Between February 2017 and February 2019, air transport movements and passenger movements for Hobart and Cambridge aerodromes recorded an average growth of 5.4 per cent and 6.1 per cent respectively. For the 12-month period to February 2019, Hobart passenger movements exceeded 2.7 million. Current passenger movement numbers at Hobart are comparable to locations where Class C air traffic control services are provided in Australia. However, there are higher air transport movements recorded at these other Class C locations compared to Hobart. The review said based on combined aircraft and passenger movements at Hobart and Cambridge compared to other Class D and Class C towered locations in Australia, the number reported incidents is considered low. Read the Hobart airspace review. Funding for regional airports Regional airports can start the process of seeking new funds for safety upgrades. Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development Michael McCormack said guidelines are now available to give airport owners and operators more information on their eligibility for the $100 million program. “For many regional communities, the local airport provides an essential link to the rest of Australia,” Mr McCormack said. “That’s why we’ve committed $100 million over four years from 2019–20 to 2022–23 to help owners of regional airports right across Australia deliver safer runways, taxiways and other safety upgrades such as new fencing or safety equipment. The Regional Airports Program will make sure regional airports meet the needs of communities and local industry now and into the future.” Round one of the program opens for applications on 24 October 2019 and closes on 12 December 2019. Find out more about the airport funding. Magazine boosts safety Make sure you don’t miss out on the new quarterly print edition of CASA’s Flight Safety Australia magazine. More than 85 per cent of people who read Flight Safety Australia consider it has made them safer in their aviation role. More than 95 per cent say it increases their knowledge and awareness of aviation safety issues. An annual subscription costs only $39.95. The summer edition will feature a ‘cloud spotters’ guide to safety by Kreisha Ballantyne, delving into the various families of clouds, the detailed naming scheme and, most importantly, which ones to avoid during flight. American-based contributor Thomas P. Turner poses a key question for aviators: we’re taught we should use checklists, but do we know why and how to use them? Subscribe to print version Flight Safety Australia magazine now. It can also be read online for free. Learn from close calls Sports aviation has its own unique challenges and risks. And a key to meeting those challenges and avoiding the risks is to learn from other people in sport aviation. To make this job easier CASA has released another sport aviation special publication – Close Calls 2019. This 45-page booklet is full of real-life stories about sport aviation flying, including errors, slips and omissions. This is the fourth close calls sport aviation special and important experiences have been openly shared regardless of possible embarrassment to promote safety. As in previous years there are stories and confessions from high-profile, even renowned, sport aviators. Stories cover gyrocopters, parachuting, gliding, home built aircraft, paragliding and ultralights. There is also a section on radio calls in non-controlled airspace. There is a $15 postage and handling charge for delivery of the booklet. Order a copy of the Close Calls 2019 sport aviation special now. Our forms are getting easier CASA’s forms are getting easier to use. PDF-fillable forms are being redesigned to make them simpler and faster to complete. The aim is also to reduce the number of CASA forms and consolidate where possible. Guidelines for completing forms are being integrated into the forms themselves or provided as website content. Over the coming months, CASA will continue to redesign and publish the most commonly used forms. To make sure you are using the most recent version of a form visit the ‘forms and templates’ page on the CASA website. Forms associated with CASA checklists, manuals or regulatory content are currently not included in the forms upgrade project. Go to the forms and templates page on the CASA website. Briefs Round one of CASA’s 2019-20 sponsorship program is open for applications until Friday 22 November 2019. CASA sponsors activities that promote aviation safety for the benefit of the wider aviation community. This can include activities such as conferences, workshops and seminars, safety forums, educational programs, publications and recreational or industry events. Feedback is being sought on two new visual reporting points at Jandakot Airport in Western Australia. The two new reporting points, Oakford and Brick Works, were implemented in May 2019 after an aeronautical review of Perth airspace in 2017. CASA wants to hear from visual flight rules pilots and air traffic controllers to find out if the new reporting points are easy to see, easy to understand on the radio and if they are suitable for their operations. Comment by 1 December 2019. An update of the advisory circular listing approved Part 147 training organisations has been released. This document lists the maintenance training organisations approved to carry out theory and practical aircraft maintenance training. Following a comprehensive review CASA has released an updated version of the Flight Examiner Handbook. This handbook contains the standards, policies and procedures to be used by flight examiners and CASA officers when conducting flight tests. Updated advice on night vision imaging system defects has been released. This new version of an airworthiness bulletin gives more information on equipment failure. A review of the airspace around Brisbane West Wellcamp aerodrome has found it is fit for purpose. CASA’s Office of Airspace Regulation will monitor traffic growth at Wellcamp over the next two years, including the integration of flight training operations. Another airspace review may be conducted after flight training begins at Wellcamp. Seminars make safer pilots Avsafety seminars make pilots safer. That’s one of the findings from a new survey of pilots who have recently attended a seminar. More than 95 per cent of pilots who took part in an Avsafety seminar consider it made them a safer pilot or changed their safety behaviour. Ninety-eight per cent of participants say they would recommend a seminar to other pilots. The theme of the latest round of seminars is ‘expect the unexpected’. Topics being covered include pre-flight planning, aeronautical decision making and checklists. Several case studies are examined covering weather, fuel, weight and balance and airspace infringements. The importance of in-flight decision making is also covered, including some of the traps in decision making. Participants discuss a case study involving fuel management from the point of view of in-flight decision making. Checklists are covered, including their history, importance and how to use them. Several safety occurrences are reviewed where the correct use of a checklist may have stopped the incident or accident occurring. In November 2019 AvSafety seminars will be held at: Mackay Parafield Warrnambool Emerald Echuca Nhill Longreach Naracoorte Mount Gambier Geraldton Jandakot Murray Bridge. Book a place at a pilot safety seminar now. Seminars for engineers A new series of engineering AvSafety seminars is now underway. The theme of the seminars for engineers is ‘the human component’. Three key topics are being covered - engineering errors and the lessons learnt, the human component of engineering and proposed new general aviation maintenance and continued airworthiness regulations. CASA’s experts use a number of case studies to delve into engineering errors, lessons from mistakes and techniques for avoiding pitfalls. The focus is on exploring the human component of engineering and the cost factors involved in maintenance errors. Importantly there is also discussion about the proposed Part 43 general aviation maintenance regulations for private and air work operations. CASA’s aviation safety advisors welcome discussions and questions, both during and after the presentations. These seminars are a great opportunity to add to professional development, improve safety knowledge and build better teamwork. In November 2019 engineering seminars are being held at: Geraldton Jandakot Hobart Launceston Perth. Book a place now at an engineering seminar.

Ok, I have created a new section called "Aviation Accidents" and it is contained in the "Media" section of the main menu. I will start populating it with accidents over say the last 3 years from the entries in the Aviation News forum to build up the list of entries for discussion so the entries will get older and older as I go but I will also add any new ones that come in as well. There are several categories: Recreational General Aviation Commercial Military Rotary Other Each entry will also contain the tags of the Date of the accident and also the Country of where the accident occurred. These should help in steering any discussion. I also would like to add the strict site rules when discussing accidents: Accidents and Incidents posts are to be made with consideration to them being a learning tool for the betterment of all site members No conclusions shall be made on the cause of any accident. No allocation of personal blame shall be made directly or indirectly at any person. Possible causes, or contributory factors, of an accident may be explored and opinion given based on the poster’s demonstrated reasons for giving such opinion. All posts shall be sensible of the feelings of family and friends and expressed accordingly.

I moved the Aircraft menu item back to the main menu for the time being...I still have not finished populating the other sections yet to start on building up the Reference Section

It is now under the Reference main section which will include Aircraft, Accidents, Famous People and other reference items as I build it up

There should be a button on the advert "Set as complete"

I am starting to wonder if the site is really worth having any more given that of the hundreds that visit the site only 9 people have bothered to vote...has the site now run its course?

Good idea however getting incident reports is extremely hard, just look at trying to find an incident report for an RAAus accident.

BUT this site is NOT Australian only...it is for ALL recreational aviators

Yes, a Guest will only be able to see the entry title but will need to register to see the content...just like the Articles, Tutorials and Aircraft sections...on the Home page they can see the article name and that it exists but when they click on it a message says that it is only viewable to registered users. Also, forgot to mention that the entries will be world wide, not accidents in only one specific country and both small light aircraft up to airliner as I think we could even learn something from an airliner accident

On the site we have database sections for Articles, Aircraft, Tutorials etc. The Articles section entries are at the moment coming from the Aviation News forum, I go through each entry in there and convert anything that is interesting into an Article for the Article section and then delete the rest as these are no longer needed. One such type of News Article is every aviation accident that has happened over the last few years so I was wondering, strictly from an educational point of view, whether to create a new section on Aviation Accident Articles. This new section would contain the news items on all the accidents that have happened over the last few years and as each one happens in the future. It would be contained in the main Media section of the site. We need to give thought to the loved ones but also I believe it would be very helpful to discuss, in a mature and thoughtful way, the accident media report and meets the site objectives of: Through interactive discussion... 1. Pilot Skills are increased 2. Aircraft are better maintained 3. Pilots safety is improved So what say you...vote if this initiative should go ahead...thanks

I think most people just don't care about RAAus any more...they fly the same as they always have, although it is getting more and more expensive and it is no longer an association of members, common interest members, it is just a company now so who cares about them

Guys, some interesting stuff here and good for a separate thread but can we get back to the topic...thanks