I hear what you say barandbrew and agree to it all. I too like my 65 knots and wont change , times are changing but the wrong way I think . why not let us do our own thing as we have always done . we are safe, so why do they continue to push more nonsense on to us ...buggar me any time your down in my neck of the woods an you wanna fly a quickie call me .....regards kermit