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Bl:censored:dy Fog !! Drove to Kyabram for weekend to pick up aeroplane Were treated to a pea souper. Maybe next weekend. Thanks Ron for making trip Pic at 11.30 am 3 Degrees C

G,day John Well done on solo mate , hope you had heaps of fun

Quote: Originally Posted by bacchus Aircraft advertised with 270 hrs TT ( changed slightly to avoid identification ) When wanting to confirm the motor was 270 hrs from new I was told it had a " Floods Overhaul " 270 hrs ago , no probs. I don't know about you, but I don't think I'd get a new engine overhauled. So if he asked about the hrs, and he said it had done 270 hrs TT since overhaul, I (myself) would automatically think it has done a lot more hrs, or isn't a new engine (from new) for that matter. Sure it wasn't stated in the add, but I guess that is why they supply their contact details? Tomo , If you wish to quote me , please try and read the quote correctly and in text. It is screaming obvious that the engine had done more hours than 270 hrs AFTER being told of the " Overhaul " The question to CONFIRM the engine had done these hours from new was asked prior to being told of the " Tear Down and Inspection " as Rotax describe it which has already been debated. For you to suggest I " LOOK DOWN " on someone because the engine took a bit to start OFFENDS ME NO END !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOOK DOWN on nobody !!!! (comment removed) - mod It used to be said Two ears one Mouth , that translates into Two eyes one finger in Modern Speak. As far as going against me ( removed ) Free world , Free speech Sorry to others not normally like this.

Very nice thought Mark She will probably want to fly back home at some stage for a visit so maybe then:thumb_up: Yes Neil seems like a great bloke as well.

" Good on Ya, do drop into Jamestown for a Cuppa! Did you buy a Hangar as well? or do the wings fold and you can put her in the trailer!? " No folding wings Blueshed , Change in super fund this week , then hangar on the way all being equal , until then pulling favours here and there. Ron Hoey ( Forum member , Savannah builder and pilot from around my way ) is accompanying me to Kyabram this Sunday then fly her home on Monday weather permitting and she will live with Ron's Savvy for a few weeks ( thanks to another aviator with a big heart ) good time to point out the help forthcoming from all directions and how a common interest like aviation brings everyone together ( Pat on the back all !! a great lot ! )

thanks CFI Could have been the case , I guess in my limited experience , I will be servicing my aircraft ( using the services of L2 ) at intervals reccomended by Rotax , measured by Hobbs , which is set running by Oil Pressure which seems to be the way to go as per Rotax owners Manual

G'day all , I have not contributed to this thread for a while as to be honest the quoting of regulations and application of such IS above my head and better left for those to argue who are well versed in them. Thus my question comes more from a common sense point of view ( imho ) Bill , a question without prejudice and I am not intending to be a smart ar** so a response in the same vein would be appreciated In this case the aircraft is " wheels up " at 40 -45 kts It could quite happily tavel around at say 55kts for hundreds if not thousands of hours never recording squat on the Hobbs meter ( as it activates at 60kts ) Do you think this is acceptale and more to the point lawful ?

He He Ultralights Takes me back to school days. Poor quality phone pic's at this stage , better ones when delivery taken Note close up of Hobbs , someone once told me you have to keep an eye on those little buggers , sometimes they speak with fork tongue !!

Thanks all , as you can probably tell very excited Yes Dave , cheap wine on order to go with the 3 day growth ( saving on Razor Blades )

G'day and welcome Samuell , nice Aircraft the Savvy ! VG , slats or XL ?

For 6 months or more I have been compiling information from this site to assist in the purchase of an aircraft. Today the bullet was bit so to speak , deposit paid , and hope to fly her back in the next week ( weather permitting ) from Vic. For those who have assisted me and may be interested 24-4629 Allegro 2000 was the final decision 97 hrs from new on Rotax 912ULS , BRS to make the trouble and strife feel a little safer. Thanks again for all the help ( this site is a beauty ) and Clear Prop had the best prices on EPIRB , Nav Software and Headsets , to boot !!

With her mind still spinning from the quality of applicant to her latest advertisement , DarkCounsel ( bak) never realised that the " bundle of Happiness" was infact a KAOS plant who had been given instruction to operate behind the lines and create HAVOC:kboom: With a 747 full of regulations , sub regulations and part paragraphs able to TRUMP anyone all seemed lost until ........

You just never know when you get up in the morning what to expect , and what will put a smile on your dial. Had you told me I would be downloading a Rabbit with Capers and Olives recepie from an aviation website care of a Maltese sister in law of a bloke I have never met before I would have offered you a lift back to Glenside ( local asylum) PS nice recepie Baph , but no-one can cook a rock like my missus ! had plenty of them over the years :thumb_up:

Thanks Ahlocks , A very informative post to say the least, seems you have found the defining and relevent regulations in this matter. Most on this site would hold the Tech Manager of the RAAUS in the highest regard , and deserving of the respect which comes with the office ! As thread starter I am sorry it has degenerated into what it has , not being lucky enough to enjoy flying as my primary source of income, I was genuinely seeking information in regards to purchasing an aircraft to continue this most wonderful hobby which the RAAUS has made available to me later in life ( better late than never ) I see Recreational Aviation has a huge upside and due to its growth ( which I was not aware of until I started training ) and have chosen to invest in commercially at the expense of other business interests with better current returns. As far as this thread is concerned, I thank ALL for your opinions , as healthy discussion can only lead to better education and clear muddy waters which I think has been done.

Hi Peter , The site has helped me immensely as a newish pilot as I am sure it will you , many hours of experience to draw upon from a great lot of guys ( generic term ) Take Care

Hello all , thanks for the info that has assisted me greatly on other threads, however I need some help again. I Need to confirm the 1 weight of Junkers BRS factory fitted to an Allegro 2000 2 cost of a a 6 yearly re pack ( must this be done ? ) 3 rocket 10 yr or 12 year lifespan ( do you discard whole system after ? ) 4 I was also told that the weight of the BRS is not considered in MTOW ( this does not sound right to me !! ) but could understand it being the case if the aircraft was subject to 544 kg RAA but was also able to be CASA registered at a higher MTOW ie Jab 230 ? Thanks in advance I hope

As I attempt to find literal meanings for the terms used verbally and by e'mail I too would like to source the correct information from one location. Rotax describe a dismantling of the engine , inspection , ( if condition is within factory wear limits ) and re construction as A " Tear Down " and to be produced is a Tear Down Report. The only reference to " Overhaul " I can find is the Oxford via Wikipedia definition " Overhaul " To modernize , repair , renovate or revise completely I am still of the opinion that this does not constitute an overhaul at all , however , as it is his site , should the Moderator consider anybody has been defamed in this discussion then I urge him to delete entries from anyone as he sees fit

G'day Walter , You must be up watching the cricket as well ! You are quite right as when the Cowls came off the spider senses started to tingle , it looked nothing like a 330 hr rotax I viewed yesterday , almost brand new and the aircraft books were immaculate , 50 hr services , all completed by the resident L2 ( who was available to talk to ) and signed/stamped , original import doc,s etc, etc, etc. The aircraft a credit to it's owner !! ( an older person and a true gentleman ) My faith and excitement restored , we await favourable conditions for a test flight . A few lessons learned for myself If it loooks too good to be true , it probably is. And things happen for a reason , this aircraft was not for me !

I guess the meter thing can be argued one way or another as seen on this thread , my real issue is going to see an aicraft advertised with 270 TT to find the engine has done coniderably more. And the very loose use of the term " Overhaul " which was used ! No Bugger it call , a spade a spade , It was a Lie . No Deadstick , I am no longer considering the Aircraft , and I did not get to look at written records as when eventually told of additional 1100 hrs that was the end of that. He has been made aware , if advert continues in current form , The governing body whom presides over this aircraft will be advised.

For the record NO second meter is installed to indicate total engine run time. And I am sorry David as I do think He has done something wrong unless a Rotax tbo is worked on engine hours spent working at over 60 kts ! ( If so I stand corrected ) You may be quite correct that this is common with GA aircraft ( you read between the lines) Buyer Beware ABSOLUTELY !! And to finish on this matter for those who think this is acceptable conduct perhaps YOU would like to buy an aircraft only done 270 hrs TT !! :thumb_up: if so drop me a PM I know where there is a beauty !

Yes Ozzie an L2 inspection was the next step and to the sellers credit he was fine with that and was even prepared to pay for it. Which is why I am so flabbergasted , I still am not sure if he was intentionally out to mislead or he is just plain stupid ! He still could not see anything wrong with him advertising the aircraft / engine at a total time of 270 hrs because " he had it checked out " So I put it to him when do you consider the TBO to be due ( if 1500 hrs recommended by manufacturer ) to which there was no real response. All I know is that if I had of purchased the aircraft I would have carried on merrily doing 100 hour inspections for the next 1230 hrs and gearbox checks as req'd. Where all the engine components had worked an extra 1100 hrs , not to mention the non metered taxi and run ups. As for the Hobbs I did not even want to go there , As Tomo said if he wanted to run a meter for air time only there should have been another for the total running time IMOP. Just annoyed that I Had to dig deep for the info on the previous 1100 hrs

Today I test flew an aircraft currently for sale and advertised in our circles. To say I have come away concerned is one hell of an understatement ! I do not wish to identify the aircraft specifically , although I have been very straight forward with the owner regarding the way the aeroplane was advertised. Am I overreacting ?? Aircraft advertised with 270 hrs TT ( changed slightly to avoid identification ) When wanting to confirm the motor was 270 hrs from new I was told it had a " Floods Overhaul " 270 hrs ago , no probs. This occured A few days ago , anyway the flight did not take place that day as the aircraft would simply not start !! days later , phone call , problem solved , battery was cactus and has been replaced , no probs make a date for today . Took one heck of a long time to kick over this morning , eventually got running and sounded pretty good , so off on the test flight , Taxi out , check Hobbs Meter , not moving !! Finished flight , pretty good , Quized re Hobbs , was told that it is configured to START COUNTING AT 60 KTS !! So it does not cut in until flight as he only wants to record " Flying Hours " So all the hours spent taxiing , warming up are not recorded ( surely this is not normal ??? ) Best of all when I asked what parts were replaced in the overhaul and could I view the invoice , I was told it was actually an " inspection " and as all was in good condition the engine was re assembled with no new parts required !! So I asked where he sourced the engine and he advised that he bought it second hand and it had done " about 1100 hrs " when he bought it ! To me that means the engine has done about 1370 hrs NOT 270 Total Time !! Am I going over the top ? Or is this normal ? Sorry long rambling post Pretty Annoyed:angry:

Hi Allegro and welcome mate, I am very seriously considerind an Allegro 2000. Would be interested in your opinion of the aircraft , MTOW issues at 520 ? handling etc ??

Thanks for that " Ultralights " I guess I will keep saving for an F16