Jeffmel

II am undertaking training towards PPL/CPL. It just came across my mind, can I asked a mate who holds a CPL and instructor rating, and conduct "private training", using a rental airoplane. Currently flying with a school but they only have Warrier/C172, for $380/h. The other club has C150 at super low rate ($160/h wet). Can I say pay $100 per hour for an instrucor (maybe from another school) and get him to fly with me in the smaller plane? There will be considerable savings and convinence right? Anyone has any experience?

I'll get an outdoor parking for $100 per mth

I know how to service my car but I still take it to mechanics coz it helps when I sell my car Does this applied to aircrafts? Buyer willing to pay premium prices if the aircraft has full servie history from certified mechenic? Ive checked the Jab in my school has always been serviced / mantained according to manufactors plan by L2 mechenic.

Thanks. I'll finish the RPC test then consider buying. I really like the Jibarus, it's a shame they are getting rid of it.

But in my case even if I fly the school's ones, there are only 3-4 to choose from, warrior and Piper, two types. If I buy the Jabiru, do most training up to PPL level, then sell it. Maybe fly 100 hrs or less. Might take a year as I can only fly 2-3 hrs a week. Is this a better plan? Leave most maintenance to the next buyer

That's something new, I've never been told RAAUS and GA standards are so different. I remember came across some ads saying their Jabiru was registered in GA and now registered with RA. that means there are should not be any major differences?

That's why I'm so keen to know the reliability and maintenance cost for the J160. Again I'm only looking to do max 200hrs out of it then sell it. If I rent a similar one from school that's 200*$120=24000. I'm positive I can sell it at similar price but I'll say selling at -$4000 of purchasing price. Which means, during my prospective 3 years ownership, if maintenance plus parking plus insurance, can be less than $20000, id be better off buying it, plus the convenience of much flexible timetable

I was told the same. The cheapest and quickest way of is get RPC, nav and pax endorsement, then convert to RPL. After the conversation, can I still fly an RA and accumulate the hrs into GA, I'm not sure

I'll say at lease 250 hrs. That includes training needed to get my CPL and some recreational use.

Glen, Appreciate your advice. It has a Gen 4 engine, hence while the TTAF is high, the engine has done only 800hrs. There are not much choice in the $25-30k range and instructors may not be willing to fly in other planes if I do get another one from somewhere else. Another thing is, my sole purpose of purchasing the Jabiru is to lower My cost in getting my PPL / CPL. So maintenance and resell are my main concerns. I do plan to hire other planes once in a while for stuff like family trips or take mates up into the sky and etc.

TTIS 6600hrs, they put a new engine in it, has done 900 hrs. wooden prop, interior is a bit worn but acceptable as it is a 10 yrs old plane. maybe a problem when selling the plane but i'm not worring too much personally I like it, but some of the instructors are not very happy..

Background: I am a student, close to get my RPC. I will then get my nav endorsment and progress to PPL at least, maybe CPL. My school is selling their old Jabiru J160, engien has done close to 1000 hrs, at which time it requires an over haul. It costs around $8k and it will last another 1000 hrs. 25 hrly oil change in between maybe $150 each time. After some simple caculation this works well for me. But Ive also heard many bad stories about their service cost and engine reliability. Any advice?

I though people who have their own planes would not care so much about training cost 🙂

Cannot thank you enough. I understand the differences of learning in GA planes or small sport planes are like learning to drive in a Golf or 30 yrs old Kenworth. Basic concepts such as road rules, steering and gear changing are similar so it make sense to start with a Golf. Plus, it does not cost much for a RPC - RPL conversion, the latter one gives me more freedom in choosing planes and taking pax. So I think the road for me will be RPC - numerous ratings - RPL (start having fun with families) - PPL (in the future) - CPL (maybe) I will check the schools you mentioned hopefully find one suits me.

Appreciate the info. It is a bit complicated for me as I have not decided whether to pursue a career in aviation, and even if I do, I will do it more on a casual side, things like piloting small sightseeing planes, fly for advertisement and ect. I have worked in travel industry for the last 5 yrs, had a promising career and just started my own touring business when the whole Covid thing hit here. I am lucky enough to get a job driving tram. Lots of time in the cockpit and I think I'd better get ready for the surge in industry when everything goes back. Flying has always been my dream so it won't hurt if I decided not to proceed to CPL. Anyway the first step is getting my RPC. Not sure when the regional and metro Melbourne restriction will be lifted so schools in metro area will be my choice. Might go to Lilydale to see them in person and decide.