Dazza, with due respect, I as much as anyone else I would like to see jabiru engines reliable , please read post 306 . The point is ATSB was investigating LSA engine reliability over a period of time, CASA took the figures for the last 12 months, apart from that CASA pulled this nonsense on the 13th of Nov, the last day of the CFI conference and said nothing there, before a meeting with jabiru re audit they pulled this stunt, and that's what it is, really is this going to help make engines reliable ? Destroying another aircraft company and many RAA schools and a smaller choice of aircraft to buy. This is not what I want ? What do you want ?