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It'll be a while yet ... But don't tempt me :))

Update --- Drum Roll I'm happy to report after meeting my Pilot neighbour that all's well with the world and good communication goes a long way. He showed me and my wife his meticulously cared for plane and his logs which gave us alot of confidence that he knows what he's doing and cares alot about safety for everyone. He's had decades of flight experience which I think, gives our family the best confidence that we're in safe hands. So, for any pilots with neighbours ... Please Please Please ... Communicate with them. We ended up laughing about the communication issues as we left. He's a great guy actually. So ... if I have offended any pilots out there, I apologise. I came from a place of keeping my family safe and not one of restricting peoples ability to enjoy their hobby. Thank You and Fly Safely Everyone Brian

Apologies for offending any Pilots out there. I'm not bagging anyone and have never demeaned or used any language to label anyone. I've only made my feelings known and my concerns. I will do as you said and take this great advice. Thank You BrendAn for taking the not insubstantial effort to reply to me and offer excellent advice. I want to thank everyone on this forum and you all have given me a lot of great ideas to work with. Some of you played the devils advocate which is great because group think can be a dangerous thing. The insights/support here has been amazing and something recreational pilots should be proud of. The fact so little accidents occur despite the number of flying aircraft really shows the quality of the Australian Private Aircraft training.. I hope this thread can be of help to people in the future. Over and Out .... Brian

Hi Pilots ... One last question Do pilot training schools teach and demonstrate stall recovery at 150 ft or similar height ??? ... I know it's probably way too dangerous to do, but maybe under controlled conditions or in a simulator ??? I just want to know so if it does happen most pilots can handle the situation and have a safe landing or recovery. Thanks in Advance everyone

Thank YOU ... I totally concur and agree 100000%

When he takes off, he is definitely not at 4-500 ft. He's more like 200 ft because I can see him just clear the creek trees by about 10-20m which are 180 meters after (he clears the house first, then the trees next) the house. The creek trees are approximately 30m - 50m tall depending on the tree.

I think about their safety first and foremost especially in the car. Always seatbelted and Always at the back.

Hi fact, As I said before, the entry is very narrow. On one side is power lines plus trees. The other all trees. I don't want him doing manoeuvres he's not confident in performing because it will increase the chances of a problem. IMHO, if they can get the last line of power lines to their home buried underground, there is the high likelyhood he can land and depart in the opposite direction. The other side is open paddocks and homes are quit far away. It's a bonus should anything happen during take off, there are plenty of paddocks to choose for landing. On my property, you'll be heading straight into the creek with large trees lining both sides, that is if you actually clear the house.

I'll be meeting him tomorrow, so looking forward to it. I'm hopeful we can find a way to resolve it so both of us come out happy and most of all safe for all of us. I'm glad you can speak for him for being a very good pilot which gives me confidence that my family will be okay. Will let you know how it goes 👍 Btw, meteorological wind speeds are not representative due to the funneling effect up here. Down in the town it's calm, but up here it's wild.

Hey Clinton, I don't at all wish for animosity. I'm a very reasonable person open to compromise. But ... It looks to me so far, they may not be willing from the indications thus far. I know as you all are pilots who may back each other up, so me coming here as a non pilot have been surprised by the support and advice. For that I'm grateful. Thank you good Pilots 🙏

Thanks for the valuable advice and insight. We bought the land in 2015 (lease the land for 6 years) and finished building in 2021 when we moved in. They moved in beginning 2024 from memory or slightly earlier. I get along with all surrounding neighbours and know them all. You're right, it's a moral ethical issue rather than a legal one. I hope if he does give up the hobby rather than keep flying low to my children's bedrooms, but who knows. Perhaps he might have a change of heart and find compassion and think about the children to create a new landing strip 😁 Again, thanks for the supportive words and it's appreciated 👍

When we wrote the message on Saturday, we didn't know they owned the plane and that if it was their friend, not to do that. They have been there a year and we have never seen the plane until now, nevermind having even met them yet.

"Not unreasonable but possibly unaware of his legal limitations & the rights of his pilot neighbour.😈" Hence, why I'm here that perhaps pilots can inform me better.

Yes, me and you the same. I'm just as surprised as anybody would be. First time I saw it I ran out the door incase they needed help because it might have been an emergency landing ... Then I see the neighbour come out and cordially chat to the pilot I realised it wasn't an emergency landing, but perhaps their Pilot friend dropped by. Then we wrote them a polite message on Saturday I think to say we have safety concerns and not to fly over our home but keep at 500ft. It was only yesterday that they wrote my wife a message that they indeed own the plane and will continue flying that way.... Like WTF

I'm an electrical engineer and during my teens, was a flight simulator enthusiast. My favourite simulator was F16 Falcon Gold because it is the closest sim to the real thing since the developers created it by flying in a REAL F16 Falcon. I also have a Masters Degree in Secondary Education (Mathematics) and have worked in industry as a Quality Assurance Engineer and created systems compliant to ISO 9000. I can assure you ... I'm DEAD serious about my plight and being upset is an understatement.