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I can proof read and edit (I'm volunteering). It is a diary, so there shouldn't be massive rewrites. However there may be parts that can be enhanced for clarity or reduced if it adds nothing to the narrative. You may wish to produce two editions; one unabridged (but edited) for e-release, and a pithy version for print (to save pages and therefore costs). I did a seaman's diary which included a shipwreck in 1850, in two versions. There were lengthy periods of boredom, poetry and anecdotes, which would interest researchers and relatives, but only the shipwreck and subsequent survival, rebuilding of boats and long journey down the coast to Brisbane would interest a wider audience. This was before e-books. Sue
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I have noticed the "click on link - open in browser" function has not been working on any other emails, so this might have come from an update (or someone fiddling). I have just got the camera icon back on the iPad for the better half; another case of finger trouble. I am yet to get him to retry the survey - the problem is most likely a cookie. I'll know if I got it right later.
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I did the Strategic Planning survey and I am still thinking about the Mission / Vision statement. The last line said something like "to be the entry point for a career in Commercial & Military aviation." I did disagree, at the time, preferring the status quo, of RAA being recreational aviation only. Now I am not so sure. Perhaps this is the way forward, to highlight and foster the possibility of an integrated career path, thereby attracting younger people, rather than limiting it to the recreational aspect. What do others think? Sue
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Have tried clicking on the link in the email and nothing happens. Probably why there hasn't been a rush to respond. I am using Mozilla Thunderbird/Firefox. It might work for others? IE etc? Have tried double click, right click and Open in Browser without success. Right click and Copy Link Location with a paste into Firefox did work, but how many would bother, or know how to get there. I have completed the survey. Unfortunately my husband couldn't complete his, because we are both using the same computer and Survey Monkey won't allow two submissions from the same address. They should consider a way for us both to have our say. Sue
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Full information here - www.westfly.com.au Following the hugely successful inaugural Recreation Aviation Australia (RA-Aus) WESTFLY. White Gum Farm has decided that 2014 will be a rest year and instead there will be a very low key invitation to those that wish for something to do on the September long weekend. No food stalls this year and no organised event, simply a welcome to fly-in. Next year (2015) should see the grand opening of the new pub and restaurant. If there is no active runway at the time of your arrival then of course you can choose any runway and may wish to use the runways 17/35 or 10/28 in the paddock east adjoining the farm and park at the NW end of runway 10/28. It is a short walk to the hangars from there. Camping areas are available; bring a tent and a swag.
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Port Macquarie Fly-In and Fly & Spy Saturday 4th October 2014 Hastings District Flying Club invites all aviators to gather in beautiful Port Macquarie for a weekend of aviation fun and fellowship. On Saturday interested aircrew are invited to participate in our Fly & Spy fun observation trial or simply soak up the friendly club atmosphere. Fly and Spy involves teams answering questions as they fly a set course in the local area and does not involve difficult navigation. There is $600 in prizemoney on offer as well as the dreaded Cabbage. Food and drink will be available throughout the day. A welcome/ presentation dinner will be held in the clubhouse Saturday night. The aim is to promote aviation activity and fellowship in the Hastings area. So fly in for a day or the weekend. Just fly in and have an enjoyable time. This event is proudly supported by the Port Macquarie & Hastings Council. For further details and to go on the mailing list contact Rod Davison at [email protected] or phone 0419632477. Club website is www.hdfc.com.au
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Well Ian, I have been keen to get the quizzes started for a while now. I had started on some based on the John Brandon tutorials. Wondering if we could get permission to reproduce some CASA Flight Safety quizzes? My internet connection is poor and I am busy, but I could get some material set up. However, if you get another keen volunteer I would be happy to help them with content. Sue
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CASA Aviation Safety Advisors will be delivering a new series of AvSafety seminars in the second half of 2014. The seminars will include: - Information about the new Part 61 Flight Crew Licence (to be issued from 01 September 2014), including look, structure, details, transition arrangements and resources to help you understand your new licence. The latest news on the regulatory reform process. This will include the next phase of regulatory reform, how to find information, what might affect you and what you need to know. Information about the educational programs and resources available online to help keep you safe in the air and on the ground. They include the recently revised visual flight rules guide (VFRG), and the updated and improved OnTrack interactive guide to operating in and around controlled airspace. The seminars will offer opportunities to discuss operator and individual obligations, as well as to ask questions, share knowledge and raise issues relating to regulatory reform. Bankstown NSW Sep 21, 2014 Sydney Flying Club Mt Isa QLD Sep 23, 2014 Ibis Styles Mt Isa Verona Longreach QLD Sep 24, 2014 Qantas Founders Museum Newcastle NSW Sep 25, 2014 Royal Newcastle Aero Club Gatton* QLD Sep 30, 2014 Gatton RSL Bathurst NSW Oct 1, 2014 Bathurst Aero Club Sunshine Coast* QLD Oct 2, 2014 Sunshine Coast Aero Club Jandakot WA Oct 8, 2014 Royal Aero Club of WA Sale VIC Oct 9, 2014 Sale Ibis Styles Hotel Jindabyne NSW Oct 16, 2014 Jindabyne Bowling Club OrangeNSW Oct 22, 2014 The Parkview Hotel Mareeba QLD Oct 22, 2014 North Qld Aero Club - Mareeba Base Mt Gambier SA Oct 23, 2014 Mt Gambier Aero Club Cairns QLD Oct 23, 2014 Cairns Aviation Skills Centre Mackay QLD Oct 28, 2014 Mackay Aero Club Maryborough QLD Oct 28, 2014 Maryborough Aero Club Bundaberg Qld Oct 30, 2014 Bundaberg Aero Club Port Macquarie NSW Nov 5, 2014 Hastings District Flying Club Coffs Harbour NSW Nov 6, 2014 TBA Kalgoorlie WA Nov 7, 2014 Kalgoorlie Boulder Aero Club Toowoomba QLD Nov 12, 2014 City Golf Club Gloucester NSW Nov 12, 2014 Gloucester Aero Club Tooradin VIC Nov 13, 2014 TBA Darwin NT Nov 18, 2014 TBA Broken Hill NSW Nov 20, 2014 TBA Scone NSW Nov 26, 2014 TBA Geraldton WA Nov 26, 2014 Kelmac Aviation Mildura VIC Dec 16, 2014 TBA *The G20 Leaders Summit in 2014 will be held on 15 and 16 November in Brisbane. Representatives will present an overview of the air control measures being put in place and what effect these measures will have on the local General Aviation community. These dates are in the Events calendar too.
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When I met my husband, we were both plane owners and pilots - that was the attraction. His first wife was not interested in flying or planes and regarded it like his workshop - he didn't do knitting and crosswords, she didn't fly or play with lathes. She died just over 8 years ago, we've been married for 6 1/2 years, just after he finished his latest build. We go to fly-ins together, which is great now he is retired. We have a topic we can talk about without arguing (much). It works for us; I am PPL with a C152 and he is RAA with a home built. Sue
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Last week we bought MEK from a chandlery (boaties' shop) where they decanted and labelled a litre for us. The shop was more than a retail outlet - they also did boat and canoe repairs, so had a bulk supply. Sue
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John Brandon's article (it is on RecFly - Resources - John Brandon tutorials - scroll down to RAAus Accident History) or use this link http://www.recreationalflying.com/tutorials/safety/intro2.html#recent See if you reach the same conclusion as Sport Pilot. Note that this article has been updated in January 2014 - it is updated each year.
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AWPA Scholarships and Awards closing Jan 31
FlyingVizsla replied to FlyingVizsla's topic in Site Announcements
Applications for 2015 AWPA scholarships & awards are now open. The closing date for these is 31 January 2015, results announced 25 April 2015 at the AWPA National Conference Launceston, TAS. Full details and application forms are available here: http://www.awpa.org.au/about-us/endowment-fund/scholarships-and-awards Please encourage students and pilots to apply or nominate - and don't leave it till the last week to lodge an application. AWPA = Australian Women Pilots' Association The Lady Casey Scholarship To assist an AWPA member to obtain an Instructor or Command Instrument Rating, either fixed wing or helicopter, to further a career in aviation. The scholarship will be valued at up to $5,000 paid on a ‘dollar-for-dollar’ basis. Criteria include being a permanent resident of Australia, holding a current Australian CPL and having been an AWPA member for at least two years (continuous). AWPA Flight Training Scholarships Sponsored by Airservices Australia To assist four women with flight training costs associated with gaining any level of flying proficiency from the early stages of training through to the Commercial Pilot Licence. Category 1: Student pilots with a minimum of five hours flying time with a General Aviation flight instructor (two scholarships). Category 2: Student/PPL pilots with a minimum of five hours cross-country flight time as pilot in command (two scholarships). Applicants must be at least 15 years of age, and must be a financial member of AWPA or have lodged a membership application with the Membership Secretary prior to 1 January 2015. Value: Up to $8,000 per scholarship. The RAAF Navigation Component Scholarship Sponsored by The Royal Australian Air Force AWPA is offering a flight training scholarship to a woman who may wish to pursue a flying career. The scholarship is to assist with flight training costs associated with completing the navigation component of a Private or Commercial Pilot Licence flying a fixed wing powered aircraft. Scholarship applicants must be between the ages of 15 and 27 and must be a financial member of AWPA or have lodged a membership application with the Membership Secretary prior to 1 January 2015. Value: $7,000. RAAF Formation or Aerobatic Endorsement Scholarship Sponsored by the Royal Australian Air Force AWPA is offering a scholarship to a female pilot to assist with gaining either a Formation or Aerobatic Endorsement. The applicant must hold at least a Private Pilot Licence (A) or provide written certification that such equivalent level has been attained. Scholarship applicants must be between the ages of 17 and 27 and must be a financial member of AWPA or have lodged a membership application with the Membership Secretary prior to 1 January 2015. Value: $2,500. Merlene Smith (nee Jackson) and Riga Medical Scholarship This scholarship is available to trainee or licensed women pilots who have been inspired to pursue a career in aviation by either: a personal experience in aviation assisting the delivery of a medical service, or the example of another female pilot, either historical or contemporary, involved in the delivery of a medical service. The scholarship could be used by the recipient to assist with gaining, retaining or furthering a flying qualification, endorsement or rating. While the scholarship is focussed on pilots in training, it is also open to licensed pilots who wish to advance their expertise particularly where they are focussed on how to use their aviation skills in the delivery of medical services in rural and remote areas. AWPA membership is not required at the time of application, but the successful applicant will be expected to join AWPA if not already a member. Value: $1,000 The ATSB Human Factors Course Award Sponsored by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau This award provides a sponsored place at an ATSB Human Factors Course for one or two AWPA members. Applicants must hold a current Commercial Pilot Licence or other aviation qualification and be employed in a commercial field of aviation. Commercial aviation may include but not be limited to charter, aerial work, air traffic control, flying training, operations, maintenance, etc. Air Transport Pilot Licence Theory Scholarship Sponsored by Air BP One scholarship is offered for a female CPL holder to provide assistance towards the cost of the ATPL theory course. Applicants must hold an Australian CPL with a minimum of 300 hours total time. Value: $1,000 on a ‘dollar-for-dollar’ basis. AWPA PPL Charts and Documents Award Sponsored by Airservices Australia Publications These awards provide geographically relevant charts and documents required by a Student Pilot for the navigation phase of their PPL training. Provisionally, the awards are available to one female and one male, however the awards will be made to the most worthy applicants regardless of gender. Applicants must have a minimum of 10 hours flight time and a pass in the Basic Aeronautical Knowledge (BAK) theory exam. Value: $550 each (inclusive of GST). Nancy Wells Award Donated by the Ninety Nines Inc. Australian Section This award is to assist a member of the 99s’ or AWPA in defraying costs of CASA exam fees, study material and equipment associated with the attainment of licences or ratings required for a career or commercial involvement in aviation. Value: $500 The Nancy Bird-Walton Memorial Trophy Sponsored by the family of the late Nancy-Bird Walton This trophy is for the most noteworthy contribution to aviation by a woman of Australasia. Membership of AWPA is not a requirement. Nominations must be in writing, with a seconder – nominations can only come from within AWPA, either from financial individual members or from state or territory branches. AWPA RA-Aus Student Pilot Scholarship Sponsored by Aero Refuellers This scholarship is intended to provide financial assistance to a female RA-Aus student pilot to complete her RA Aus Pilot Certificate. Applicants must have a minimum of 5 hours total flying time in powered aircraft and must be a financial member of AWPA or have lodged a membership application with the Membership Secretary prior to 1 January 2015. Value: $1,500. AWPA RA-Aus Endorsement/Rating Scholarship Sponsored by Aero Refuellers This scholarship is available to a woman who already holds an RA-Aus Pilot Certificate – it is to assist her with the gaining of either an RA-Aus Cross Country Endorsement or an RA-Aus Instructor Rating. Applicants must be financial members of AWPA or have lodged a membership application with the Membership Secretary prior to 1 January 2015. Value: $1,500. NSW 2000 Edna Grose Scholarship Sponsored by AWPA NSW This scholarship is open to all eligible members of AWPA and may be used for fixed wing, rotary wing, gliding or balloon flight. The intended use of the scholarship could include multi-engine class rating, design feature endorsement, Flight Review, PPL training, CPL training, Private Instrument rating (PIR), flight activity endorsement, cross country gliding rating, aircraft type endorsement. It is intended that the scholarship be used for the attainment of one qualification and only for the intended purpose nominated on the application form. Note: This scholarship is not intended to be used to obtain an Instrument Rating (IR), Flight Instructor Rating (FIR) or Night Visual Flight Rules rating (NVFR). Applicants must have a minimum 12 months membership of AWPA, hold a current medical, have completed GFPT (or equivalent for gliding or ballooning), or hold a Recreational Pilot Licence or higher, hold the appropriate licence or rating to undertake the proposed flight training, and for PPL, CPL or PIR, passes in the appropriate theory examinations (evidence to be provided). Value: $2,500 on a dollar-for-dollar basis. Mary O’Brien Silver Wings Award Sponsored by Barbara Swett (USA) and AWPA NSW Branch To assist a woman of 45 years or more with ab-initio training, RPL, PPL, CPL, Night VFR, PIR, training or endorsements in aerobatic or retractable or tail wheel flying. Open to any female pilot who is a permanent resident of Australia and is at least 45 years of age. The successful applicant will be required to join AWPA if not already a member. Value: Up to $1,500 on a ‘dollar-for-dollar’ basis. Roma 2008 Award Sponsored by AWPA Queensland To provide assistance towards the cost of a Flight Review or IFR renewal, either fixed wing or helicopter. Applicants must have held AWPA membership for a minimum of 12 months as at the closing date. Applicants must hold a current aviation medical. Two awards are available – one for a Queensland member and the other for a member from any other state or territory of Australia. If no applications are received from Queensland members, then both awards are available to members from other states or territories of Australia. If no applications are received from members of any other state or territory of Australia, then both awards are available to Queensland members. Value: $1,000 for each award. The 1974 Memorial Grant Donated by AWPA Victoria Branch This award is to provide assistance towards the cost of a Night VFR Rating. Applicants must be female, a permanent resident of Australia, hold a private licence with a minimum of 100 hours, and not be currently training for a Night VFR rating. Membership of AWPA is not a requirement. As this scholarship was donated to assist a PPL pilot, preference will be given to applicants not intending to proceed to a CPL. Value: $1,000 on a dollar for dollar basis. The Freda Thompson and Claire Embling Aviation Award Donated by the late Claire and Ken Embling. To assist in the advancement of practical and/or theoretical training. An applicant must be a permanent resident of Australia, and have a minimum of 50 hours in a powered aircraft. The award must be used within 12 months. Membership of AWPA is a requirement, for a minimum of twelve months immediately prior to application for the award. Value: $1,000 on a dollar for dollar basis. The AWPA SA/NT Branch Incentive Award To financially assist a current South Australian or Northern Territory AWPA Member in any commendable aviation endeavour. Applicants must have a current Aviation Medical, be a resident of SA or NT, and have been an AWPA member with a minimum of 24 months in the SA/NT Branch. Value: Variable. AWPA WA Branch Aviation Award The aim of this award is to assist any female student pilot in training for the General Flying Progress Test (GFPT), Recreational Pilot Licence (RPL), Private Pilot Licence (PPL), RA-Aus Pilot Certificate, RA-Aus Navigation Endorsement, or Gliding Certificate, thereby promoting the Australian Women Pilots’ Association. Membership of AWPA is not a requirement. Value: $2,000 on a dollar-for-dollar basis. There are more Scholarships, Trophies & Awards closing 18 March 2014 - particularly Gliding & Soaring. See the website for more details -
Isis Flying Club will host the Wings & Wheels event at the Childers Qld Airstrip
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Main Race Program 5 - 6 Sept - travel home 7th Sept. Non race events start from 2nd Sept: Movies, fun run, fashions, Fred Brohy's Boxing Tent & book launch, Cocktail party, live music - supporting the RFDS and other charities. Cirrus Aircraft on display 10am - 3pm 6-7th Sept. Get a firsthand look at the all-new 2014 Generation 5 SR22T A per person landing/access fee applies for all persons utilising Birdsville Aerodrome during the Birdsville Races period. Toilet and shower facilities are provided for those wishing to camp by their aircraft at no extra cost. The Ballina Aero Club is responsible for Birdsville Aerodrome management during race week. Information for all travelling by aircraft to Birdsville in 2014 is available here: http://www.ballinaaeroclub.org.au/birdsville.htm Register for the 2014 aircraft competition with cash and other prizes in the following categories; 1. Most aircraft attending from one Club or Organisation. (The Sydney Aviators brought seven aircraft last year and will be at Birdsville again in 2014.) 2. Longest distance flown to Birdsville. Garmin D2 Watch with GPS supplied courtesy Cirrus Aircraft Australia.
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BBQ LUNCH FLY-IN. LUCKY Landing Time PRIZE Wahring Field VIC (30km south of Shepparton) 25 OCT 2014 9am onwards Gliding/Gyro display to follow YWHG S 36° 40’8” E 145° 14’6” CTAF 121.1 RWY 03/21 Call Martin for more info 0418 627 846 call for directions if coming by car Ph: 0418 627 846
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From the ATSB Factsheet:- How to manage partial power loss after takeoff in a single-engine aircraft 1. Plan Acknowledging the possibility and establishing different strategies to deal with a partial power loss before flight will give you an advantage. By planning your response ahead of time, you reduce your mental workload, mitigate some effects of decision making under stress, and give yourself the confidence to carry out positive actions in the emergency situation. 2. Check your aircraft before you take off Many partial power loss incidents occurring after takeoff could have been identified and prevented during pre-flight checks. Aircraft physical inspection, engine run ups and on takeoff engine checks can significantly help prevent partial power loss occurring. Many instances of partial power loss have been found to be fuel and spark plug related, which can exhibit physical symptoms such as: an rpm drop higher than the maximum prescribed by the manufacturer during run-up checks; a lower than minimum static rpm on application of full power on takeoff; the engine not 'sounding' or 'feeling' normal, such as general rough running during the takeoff run. 3. Maintain control of your aircraft If you still experience a partial power loss you need to respond immediately. Taking no action is not an option. The first priority is to maintain control. Pilot actions have included turning back to the aerodrome or conducting an immediate forced landing on or off the aerodrome; however, the height of failure, wind speed and direction, traffic and terrain are all factors which will influence this pre-planned option. Maintaining glidespeed and no more than a moderate bank angle will ensure you maintain control. Arriving at the ground with wings level and with the aircraft level with terrain, rather than after a stall and or spin can make all the difference. http://www.atsb.com.au/publications/2011/partial-power-loss.aspx
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The link to the ATSB publications with downloadable booklet (7MB) and video: http://www.atsb.com.au/publications/2010/avoidable-3-ar-2010-055.aspx "This ATSB booklet aims to increase awareness among flying instructors and pilots of the issues relating to partial power loss after takeoff in single-engine aircraft. Accident investigations have shown that a significant number of occurrences result in fatalities or serious injury due to the aircraft stalling and subsequent loss of control resulting in a collision with the ground or water."
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This article can be found on the RecFlying site under News from both the ABC and ATSB http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-27/atsb-campaign-over-deadly-midair-power-loss/5701434 ATSB launches campaign to prevent deaths from plane power loss in midair Many pilots lack training about the deadly risks of midair power loss in small planes, the national transport safety investigator has warned. The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) has launched an education campaign about partial power loss in single-engine aircraft, which caused the death of nine people between 2000 and 2010. In contrast, total power failure in those planes did not cause any deaths during the same period. The ATSBhas found that the high number of deaths could be partly explained by insufficient training and a lack of pilot preparation and planning. The causes of partial power loss in midair include lack of fuel and problems with plane systems, including spark plugs, pre-ignition and the carburettor. The ATSB has released an online video and booklet reinforcing the need for pre-flight checks and contingency plans. ATSB research manager Stuart Godley said a partial loss of power could be more problematic for a pilot than a full power loss. "The dangers are that compared to a complete power loss there are a lot more complicated," he said. "They give the pilot a lot more decisions to make and it's that sort of decision making, and the fact that they are often not practiced, (that) makes it more dangerous." Partial power loss 'not specifically trained for' Dr Godley said pilots and flight instructors should take note of the the high number of deaths and serious injuries that resulted from partial power loss. "Historically, the simulated total loss of power and subsequent practice forced landing has been the core of a pilot's emergency training," he said. "However our accident data shows that for single aircraft, a partial power loss during and after takeoff is three times more likely to occur than a complete engine failure. Video: Australian Transport Safety Bureau's Youtube video about partial power loss after take-off. "It's not something specifically trained for, but the other thing is there's lots and lots variations of a partial power loss, everything from a nearly full power loss to nearly full power being available. "A pre-flight briefing for both a complete engine failure and partial power loss is the key to a pilot maintaining control of the aircraft."
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That's because (as I said in the first line of my post) "The accident from "last Sunday" is not listed (yet)" The second accident, which happened after the one we are discussing in this thread, is included out of interest. The Gascoyne Junction J230(?) with the Continental or Lycoming engine that Teckair is referring to with substantial damage last Sunday, has not made it to the RAA website (yet). That's 3 Jab engine stoppages - 30 July, 3 August and 10 August 2014. The listing is here https://www.raa.asn.au/safety/accident-incident-summaries-2014/ Sue
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The following reports have been lifted from the RAA Accident & Incident Reports. The accident from "last Sunday" is not listed (yet):- ________________________ 30 July 2014Jabiru J170DRuncorn(YBAF),QLD0720On a return from an an area training flight the aircraft engine initially surged then lost complete power. The pilot elected to land in a nearby soccer field and during the landing sequence impacted a set of goalposts before coming to rest. Minor injuries were reported to both occupants with severe damage to aircraft.RA-Aus has completed its investigation into this accident and determined the engine appeared to be operating normally and the accident may have resulted from fuel starvation, rather than fuel exhaustion. The pilot completed all required actions as he was trained to do, to bring about a successful and safe emergency landing. TT(PIC):50 TT(Type):50 _________________________ 3 Aug 2014Jabiru J160Redcliffs Golf Course, Mildura VIC1400Cruising at 1300ft and the engine suddenly started to run rough, lost power and began vibrating badly. PIC was approximately 3 NM from the golf club. PIC set up an approach to a fairway, when close to the ground (20ft) golfers appeared in the approach path and to avoid them PIC turned towards the trees and tried to balloon over the trees. The plane stalled into a tree and came to rest approximately 20 meters beyond. PIC promptly exited the aircraft without injury. The engine ceased operating at approximately 100 ft. Investigation outcomes under assessment.TT(PIC):1247 TT(Type);700 TTIS:1303 TTSM:16.3 _________________________
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Wow! Just received it. Well done RAA. Now to read it Sue
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Notice on the RAA website:- Passenger carriage in seats with dual controls August 13, 2014 | members At present CAR 226 (1) © permits a passenger to be carried in a seat with dual controls only if the passenger is an appropriately qualified pilot licence holder, a student or Is authorised by CASA. 226 Dual controls (1) During flight, a person may occupy a control seat of an aircraft equipped with fully or partially functioning dual controls only if: (a) the person holds an appropriate pilot licence for the type of aircraft and the class of operations in which the aircraft is flown; or (b) the person is a student pilot assigned for instruction in the aircraft; or © the person is authorised by CASA. Penalty: 25 penalty units. (2) In authorising a person to occupy a control seat in pursuance of subregulation (1), CASA may grant the authority subject to such conditions as CASA considers necessary in the interests of safety. (3) A person authorised under paragraph (1)(b) must not contravene a condition subject to which the authority is granted. Penalty: 25 penalty units. (4) An offence against subregulation (1) or (3) is an offence of strict liability. Note: For strict liability , see section 6.1 of the Criminal Code . An Exemption (EX153-14) has been issued by CASA to formalise RA-Aus Pilot Certificate holders’ ability to carry a passenger in a seat which has dual controls. CASA 153_14 – Permission to occupy seat fitted with dual controls Essentially, from members perspective, nothing changes, provided pilots conduct an appropriate passenger briefing including the information in Schedule 2 of the Exemption, that controls are not to be interfered with during a flight, and there is adequate communications possible between pilot and passenger. CASA have produced an excellent video presentation at the link below which provides some additional insight into an appropriate passenger brief.Jill Bailey Operations Manager