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  1. Keith Page
    Fact hunter you missed the point.. This is point I wish to bring to the front. I touched on it quite strongly in my post, how Middo had legal help at a meeting now it is happening again. A number of the ones making a lot of noise back then are on the board now. So what is the difference at least back then motions could be moved from the floor, however now all this can not happen. In Bundaberg motions could not be moved from the floor so it has been happening for a while. I will not let that one go as life is worse in that respect as demonstrated in kaspers post, consider Ian's post there is more evidence. What has Rod a board member told us? KP
  2. Keith Page
    Regarding Kasper's post #120. Only what I can say in that case "hypocrites". What hypocrisy, should have heard the noise when Middo brought legal help to a meeting. The rumblings regarding that attendance continued till not that long ago. Last bit of information --The current president was attempting to contact Steve Runciman regarding payment and reason for attending with legal aid. That is the last information I have heard no mention of late - not interested. I special point of observation:- Some of this current board and their cronies were the ones who yelled the longest and hardest regarding the legal attendance hence "hypocrites". How disgraceful, a members concerns not being addressed, he was shut down, that just gives resentment more traction. What they (Board/Management) do not realise a number of silent members have the same view, how are those members views going to be addressed. I guess under the carpet with rest of the issues. I do ask what happens when the carpet gets that lumpy and no one can walk on it? KP
  3. Keith Page
    If those keys were seen loitering beside a Brumby they may be charged with loitering with intent. Check the cop shop charge sheet.
  4. Keith Page
    Yep pollies sitting on their fat ask telling us what to do. These fat lounge cats are not bothered about going to see what us people, they sit back and tell us what they think is good. The producer/industry/society groups political arm is basically useless, it is just an echo for the political parties which are in power at the time. KP
  5. Keith Page
    I thought this thread was about getting some metal, making it into a shape, put the shapes together and make an engine. Only position for silicone valley is the CNC machines. I am wondering how the silicone valley products can swing a prop? We need some perspiration involved with the exercise. KP
  6. Keith Page
    For my way of thinking Australian manufacturing slid down the hill ever so quickly when this level playing field concept came to vogue. What we are forgetting Australia is on the level field and is competing with tariffs and sudsidised manufacturing. How can we survive? Only what we get here is regulations which make business hard to operate unles we put in expensive business infrastructure. KP
  7. Keith Page
    cscotthendry. I can not give you enough ticks for that comment. The pollies sit on their hands and do nothing. No wonder the Australians are getting sick of just paying. KP
  8. Keith Page
    Banks have a lot to answer for regarding the farm debt. Australia can not sustain the money system which we have in Australia at the moment. I can not get my head around the value farm land and it's return on capital and we have the experts out there banging on about what the return should be. Nothing is adding up. So here we have another business gone how very sad for Australia. KP.
  9. Keith Page
    Yes you are on to it. The big problem here a number of people listen/read to reply not listen/read to understand. As I see as of the current situation the fix is more regulations which make the authors and readers warm and fuzzy, result "diddly squat" is your answer. As I see the situation the number of problems are human factor related, simply put, us humans have short comings what ever we do those problems will persist. To get around those problems we have to develop good procedures. i.e..Taught the simple things how to minimise the incidents. KP
  10. Keith Page
    I like that one -- how often do we see a problem fixed with another rule. Eventually we have that many rules nothing can be done because as soon as we do anything we are breaking a rule. KP
  11. Keith Page
    Think about it for a bit.. Read to understand the points. Good education and training will be a very good avenue, which is on the way to greatly minimising incidents. We can report accidents and incidents till the cows come home, however preventing the need is an easy option. Training and educating culture is something people will hand about themselves plus a lot of people will inadvertently copy. KP
  12. Keith Page
    OK.. Would it be better to have situations where there are very minimal incidents? What is the benefit of reporting accidents/incidents? Time and effort of good education and culture training would be the better avenue to correct these looming problems. Have these people trained, educated in procedures and cultured to good behaviour and safety will be the byproduct. If safety and safety and safety is pushed at people they will resent safety, demonstrating the culture/behaviour education will show the good benefits. KP
  13. Keith Page
    Looks like this comment was taken out of text. I am not one to write a novel just to give an answer, I endeavour to keep all as short as can be. Why not have the constitution as correct as possible as of the time of implementation. A number of areas were identified pre the voting. These areas were the ones which were preferred to be ignored. How ever there will be other areas which need updating as time progresses then these can be updated as members see fit as to what the correct can be. Still does not get away from the fact, have it correct as possible at the beginning of the journey. KP
  14. Keith Page
    Changing the constitution after the implementation is another task. I can imagine the office staff are not running about tripping over each other, they are busy with their work things. So why not, a case of work smarter not harder. Most things in life, the fix is the easiest at the beginning of the journey not after the commencement. So why not fix at the beginning. KP
  15. Keith Page
    Why not have it correct to start with? KP
  16. Keith Page
    The problems were high lighted early in the process. There was a long time before the voting happened to correct the constitution and no interest was demonstrated to correct the problems. As I have said here many times have the planning correct before we start on the journey none of this correcting on the trip. KP
  17. Keith Page
    David. Just a point which is not considered anywhere in all thes posts. If a registered document is altered in any way that document has to go through all the accepting and registering process again as it is for the purpose of the exercise a new document. Hence that will a another colossal task. That is my reason for having it correct before registering the document. KP.
  18. Keith Page
    I will reserve my opinion for my self. I think you can form your opinion as to what that adds up too. Not hard you know. KP.
  19. Keith Page
    I was commenting on planesmakers post. How he sent questions out and only one person replied in an unsatisfactory manner. When people go quiet, well we have to ask questions and when there is silence they are normally up to no good. Planesmaker was referring to the tech. manual. Upon Frank's and Rod's posts it was done in secret, which a number of people do believe. So when there is a board of 5, negotiating is far less as when there is 7 the task becomes a lot more complicated. So Frank's very valid suggestions were swept under the carpet and Rod saying "done in secret" rings loud alarm bells for me and the small board things could wriggle through without a lot of questions. What dose that add up to? KP.
  20. Keith Page
    That tells us something, eh????????????????.. Look back what Frank and Rod told us, there are the answers loud and clear. Remember there was a big push to have only 5 on the new board, but this 7 has spoilt a lot of plans for the 5 to get their majority way. KP.
  21. Keith Page
    We all work under the same Act and Regulation. Not a case of different rules for different sectors. What is in Part149. We are all the same. KP.
  22. Keith Page
    Education which develops a culture and by gosh we then have a by product which is safety. Why go out and hamer and hamer safety when it is so simple, a case of education and culture development. The good thing about culture it is a catching thing, people naturally take all on board without a grizzle as they do not want to miss out on something good, plus it is a good bonding issue. KP
  23. Keith Page
    No Don, It is a membership based organisation and something as big as that dose not get done in secrecy. Even though you will get a lot of noise it should have been reported that it was being done. There are a lot of clever people out there and only reason they were not consulted because they would not rubber stamp what was being done. I do believe a lot of people will abandon RAAus be cause it is moving to a over governed organisation. I suspect you are referring to me as one of those arm chair critics, news for you, that is not correct. I am out and about pushing the correct cause. KP
  24. Keith Page
    Thanks Ian. Kp
  25. Keith Page
    Well said Frank. Looks like no return from there. One has to listen to the people, incorrect or correct and they will respect the opportunity not this..... ....."This is what you are getting"..... that was done without any consultation. To me RAAus looks like it is on a similar path as the Canberra RSPCA had found its self. It is such a dreadful situation for RAAus from such a great organisation to this shambles now, the other interesting point the one who were yelling just a few years ago, you are doing it wrong, the bulk of them are and have been at the helm for RAAus to get to where it is. The jury and judges are saying how great things are now, I would hate to see it if they say things are bad. KP.
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