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Andy you have answered it for me, by dodging the question. Just wondering if there is some up to date financial snippets about. Heard on the grape vine costs have blown out just wondering by how much, 5 months ago is not the correct answer. Regards, KP
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Thank you Turbo.. I am expecting that treatment as I am endeavour to get the truth to surface. You know when one whacks the critters enough they leak truth. The most interesting post was Rod and he was answered with """Lies"""". I am stuck here as he would have made his statement on his side of truth so with that in mind all the statements made on this forum regard the constitution would come under lies and need verifying as to who is tell the undistorted truth. Now for the big one I suspect very much that there was a campaign of soliciting a YES vote out of all and sundry, but proving it will be impossible. Gathered by other little snipets outside this forum. No mention of the financial situation, or are they hoping no one will ask? Regards KP
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Has anyone received some financial information? Wondering how RAAus is sitting in the finance stakes. Has been very quiet. Seeing there is a big drop in membership funds could be very tight. Any answers? Regards, KP
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Could we say you were at wits end and let give this a go, would that be an appropriate statement to cover the situation? KP.
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Good on you DWF you are thinking about how the constitution can be manipulated. I do not think those board members are that self interested they know what is store for us. It is not water tight or there abouts, are places one can a drive double decker bus through. I still can not see why the urgency (now), why not wait and have the constitution correct. The urgency bit needs to be questioned. KP
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As you say RAAus will have to grow and prosper.. If RAAus dose not do that, there will be a lot of people who will have a please explain note. I am concerned as to what is not told to us, what generates this doubt more is that 6 board members voted against the change. Well it just got through at board level. When one is out selling something they do not tell the bad points, they exaggerate the good points. With a result like that RAAus could disintegrate because of the unhappy people. I have to say there will be adverse repercussions with unhappy people and there will be control on that behaviour. Now is the time for the YES people to get out, sell and prove the yes and have no shonks in the would pile anywhere. One good one, which has the membership riled up is how the magazine was restructured and that was put through as saving money. I hope no more shonks like that will surface. KP
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I just want to illiminate the temptation of vote rigging with the three. Remember there are alterations to the constitution to happen, so where can that end up with three driving the alterations? KP
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Hello Rod, The voting will be very interesting. You mentioned caution do not stress there is a lot caution and thinking out in the members ranks. One of their concerns is what will happen in the long term you know those situation we can not see and envisage until we are bitten. Yep Don has put a lot of work into the re- write but still not stop us from looking in the distance and laterally as Don says all good sailing ahead, will it be? Now how can it be when there are know corrections already.? KP
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So NO has to be the answer. KP
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Two things there Don is pushing his yes vote... The other RAAus is a member based organisation.. What do the members want, not the board. KP
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What is if one has puts the hard yards in and still there are unanswered questions and still does not like the direction. Well it has to be "NO" till it is corrected. One does not start a journey unles the plan is correct at the beginning. It is OK to change a plan when the trip indicates such but, no, to the faults at the start. KP.
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It is a case of NO until there is a clear understanding. If we vote it in where will it end up, so NO has to be the answer. KP
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Good on you Don you have mentioned something I have been on about for ages. You have seen this with your own eyes and how easy it was get implemented.. #117. We do not need more Acts, Regulations and Rules to control things like what is being presented and designed currently. In our case (RAAus) it is a simple case of Education and Culture development, this will be a simple shift to people being happy to belong and interested in helping. This is done without fluff, glitz, flowers and bells and whistles. What will Acts, Regulations and Rules is only resentment and that is the direction at the moment. Education and Culture development is not achieved with a big stick, Education and Culture development has to be done correctly imperative, then E&C is contagious spread like wild fire. Regards, KP
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Hello kasper, As yet the draft V4 Tech Manual has not had a read. Waiting for my mag to turn up. To me this sounds like the constitution - shown to the members in a shabby form. Why not get it about correct before it is presented? This is same as the constitution. I am wondering who has the idea that RAAus has got to have more regulation than GA? The concept of AUF has drifted off in the clouds. RAAus is a members organisation I think the members should be listened too. OR Does RAAus want to loose all its members.? Regards KP
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SO Why is it dying in Australia?? KP.
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OK!!!! You say a career in aviation, put it to you this way -- if all these policies and wishes are enacted there will be no planes about so what will be the use of aviation? Regards, KP.
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In reply to nong post#81. My answer is yes. This new constitution is the initial tool which will allow what you are advocating. The rules you are mentioning just pop out of the air they are not in place within a system and process. Regards, KP.
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Got to be a system and process with in the SMS. You all talking about auditing well some news there is no registered system and process in the SMS as to which path is used to monitor the log books. Regards, KP.
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Yes there is to be something to be done.. But not an eeny meeny miney mo process. A nominated designated system and process not something just thought about and cobbled together. There needs to be a clear nominated process not this pulled out of the blue where no one has heard about. It is one of those basket of surprises which was not communicated. The process needs to be registered with in the SMS. Regards, KP.
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Did you read the rest of it? How is it to be executed? Regards, KP.
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Yes those preflight inspections go on my flight log along with the fuel measures, times and landings.(Fuel management needs a safety net as it is done in flight planning procedure as well hence fuel required is calculated twice.) Better to be sure. Only the services and maintenance/repairs get on the log book. Regards, KP
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Looks like other people do not know what is in the Tech. Manual as they would not be asking for information outside the content. Regards, KP.
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Are those requests in the Tech. or Opps. Manuals? If the format for requests not there, how can one comply? To me it is making up rules at a whim. Regards, KP
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Yes Bill you are on to it. Sorry about harping -- that is the exact reason why I am against leaving three directors on the board with a new constitution which is not correct.. They have runs on the board for making rules on the run, that is just one demonstration. Regards, KP
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As I see it there is no requirement -- as nothing regarding paperwork work requests is not mentioned in the Tech. Manual. If it is not a directive in the Tech. Manual so why? To me it is regulations on the run. How can you comply with something if it not in the Tech. Manual or Opps. Manual. If it is not they can make any rule up. Regards KP.
