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You guys... Obviously know nought about horses.. It was Pegasus and he was doing a cross wind takeoff when attack by a Jabiru.

Back on topic. What keeps aircraft in the air? Tricky but I have seen a lot fly but look very awkward doing it...so it must be ... Ugliness - the earth repels them from disgust. And since I live under the training area for the F-35, it is ugliness, huge sound and billions of your 💰

Don't worry a Jabiru looked sideways at it before takeoff, so must be a Jabiru at fault.,

On the track real cars you can buy, real racing. Like 105 Alfas menacing ford GT's et al and Alan Jones showing em how it's done in the 2.5 V6 Alfa beating all but the fastest V8s to the flag at Bathurst. Real cars that can be driven hard all day long on road or track. The euro cams equivalent hobbled the Alfa every year from 68-72 but could not stop it winning the euro touring cars five years in a row. Only stopped by opening the class to 3.0 litre to give the Capri and BMW CSL a chance. A V6 504 would have been a dog given the PRV V6 shared with Volvo, not a lot of power for a lot of weight. Supercars attempt to be fair and let others play was hobbled by rules to suit the locals, hence the fastest was the Volvo V8( designed by Yamaha) was rev and intake restricted to ensure failure. A bit like racing Hussien Bolt after cutting one of his lungs out. The Ron Harrop retirement funded by cams rules. Bloody parochial aussies

Good ol Cams will screw you if the local stuff gets beaten, they must maintain the V8 supercars myth. Bring back grp A and C, actual cars not sillouttes

Real speed equals Rolls Royce Olympus

They definitely will be a big hit in the drone market esp for long range quadcopters as a generator. Just like Jabiru are used in lots of military drones now. As a generator/ battery extender it has a future.

Yes, Two grades of Pugsley 404 and 504, either CKD kits built on lines with other bad cars or the fully french version which are amazingly well built and vault like. Had many 504 in family but best was blue one from France, a huge difference and same car still cruises the south coast after 50 years. Incredibly comfortable and a superb ride. Pugs won lots of rally and reliability trials like Redex. A 504 was everything a ford or Holden was not and very long lived simple motor- easy 500,000km if well treated. The Holden and Ford's of the time rarely did 100,000 before throwing a rod or been rebuilt. The Commodores were quickish but poorly built even the last of them. In 2017 the final was only as good as a 1988 e34 BMW, The 1996 E39 was a massive leap. The bombodore rear end was a poor copy of very old BMW tech. Even worse the entire VR series had misaligned rear suspension from faulty jigs.Holden knew but refused to fix it until the VS came out with updated and new ( 30 year old design) independent rear . VR models will kill you given a chance. They deliberately sold unsafe cars and got away with it. People died in accidents that should never have happened. How do you know a Commodore is scared of trees? They split in half just looking at a tree. No caring parent should ever let their kids drive a Commodore. The V8 utes are perfect to quickly carry a huge ego to a fast grave, aka the tradie killer. They make a valiant charger seem stable and safe. Reliable? There is a reason no cabbie ever kept a commode long term.

Endless growth is a negative sum game, you can only lose. That is the real picture, we have outgrown our ability to live within our environment, unfortunately that is a the whole planet. We are the ultimate predator able to adapt to any environment from land to the depths of sea and onto space. The ability to transfer cultural knowledge and technology has far exceeded our ability to acknowledge our destructive nature. The great extinction 65 million years ago from a cataclysmic asteroid strike is been repeated but by a bipedal mammal,Homo Destructus. Today the seas of the Mediterranean and English, Northern seas are up to 5 Celcius above normal. That is a scenario expected in 30 years by climatologists, it is a urgent issue. Oceans ecosystems are threatened with complete collapse. The idea of the great iced Himalayan ranges melting and flooding India, Pakistan and Bangladesh is now a reality. Pakistan has been devastated by flooding from melt. My fellow humans it is clearly apparent that Homo Destructus is a genetically engineered experiment on a biological Doomsday machine. We are acting like a cancer on the planet and it acts accordingly. Meanwhile China has jumped ahead in the mass transition to electrification of transport. This year it will be the world's largest car exporter, and races ahead in all aspects of batteries etc. Great it should be acknowledged they grabbed the 4 th industrial revolution by the horns, the same with solar. Where would we be if China not had pushed forward on solar, Australia made it possible and would not back it? I need a another beer

I think it a absolute moral duty to instantly wake all the passengers via adrenaline. Then they get to watch the crew escape ala F111 in the cockpit module... Then a hologram of Greta Thunberg appears saying " you have been selected for a Darwin award due to your rich lifestyle" and she laughs and laughs... It clearly would be unethical to let them sleep through the award presentation.

This is a perfect example of man's pursuit in wrecking the planet and burning cash for the ego brag of flying Death Star airways. All tickets should include contract requirements of losing all assets to fight climate change and a permanent free home in the middle of a desert. Just a happy 🤔

Glad the PIC has survived and will recover, a bad day at work with a life saving Jabiru airframe. The cocky shit trainee should take up skydiving and learn to fall instead of fly. Once again the Jabbawocki has proven it's great ability to shed loads in a crash. Two walking away is a hell of a example of safety in design.

The reporter was heard to say, " this Cessna was water bombing and ran out of air"

When I first heard a 737 went down, my first reaction was........another maintenance free Qantas flight. Obviously Alan Joyce was quick to repaint the tail. Glad pilots are Ok.

And naturally the turnback was the best Qantas option. Screw the passengers and make it convenient for the small engineer team, that could have been flown in on the next flight. Very much the Joyce way of doing things.

Motorbikes and fast cars, European ones- particularly the red italians. Now have moved to a life aquatic for a simple healthy life...low impact on my health and the planet. Sure beats the big city and covid worries. Intend to sail for several years and just enjoy. Live off the seafood and grow fattish and happy. I intend to eat lots of lobsters, crabs, fish etc. Always loved sea stories and time to make my own. Young and dumb enough to have a go Old and wise enough to be careful.

My pleasure. Now repeat. I can make that a order if needed.?

Keep it upsky franco and enjoy playing the eagle. Us poor buggers are surrounded by turkeys.

Awesome, You lucky lucky barstard. Only water bound for now but the water birds are great

I would expect that been in hospital is a big factor in deaths- so don't go and you might live longer. Lets face it, hospitals are full of sick people.

Wise words, only keep with a group or even a single rider when you are happy at that speed, not just yourself but those around you doing the right thing, ie not stuffing up and bringing you down with them. Many a time, I have enjoyed riding as a group at speed, fanging it or touring, but you must be comfortable with the speed and your fellow riders abilities. We quite often get sucked in by "keepingupitis" and can get into a situations where our egos write cheques our skills cant cash. And that can be a disaster waiting to happen for all. Many a rider has succumbed to the temptation to follow a more experienced and skilled rider (and with currency) on a nice road and try and keep up, I am always vigilant to try and minimise the risk when riding with others esp those newer riders with a fast big hp bike. I must admit to liking been able to just do my thing on a nice road and not worry about someone hurting themselves or me. So either leave them early whilst they get gear on or wait and have a smoko before catching up later. For young turks learning, or older returned riders, I explain, I will go first, they follow after 2 minutes and will wait for them. That way they have no incentive to overdo it, nothing is worse than picking up the pieces when a following rider fails to arrive. Riding in a group is a enjoyable experience but like formation flying is a skill and requires all involved to be at a high skill level , the right mental set and in the "zone", esp if speed increases and things get "sporty". You have to rely on them always picking the right line, being consistent in braking, acceleration, speeds, separation etc and always reading the road ahead correctly as they lead a group. The leader is really a important job like flight leader but the fellow riders must be up to the task to choreograph the pack safely. It only takes one in the pack to miss a line or find the gravel patch/pot hole/ oily bit etc, when braking and the separation into the corner disappears and contact with rider in front brings the group down. When this happens into a corner, the riders are now into the oncoming traffic and you can imagine the rest. And the turkeys in cars can be the factor of death for many like ....https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/22/seven-dead-new-hampshire-crash-us-marines-biker-club For the touring or longer rides its also important too consider not just various rider skill and respective performance but fatigue levels of the riders and their steed- some bikes are great at making 8 hrs of fast touring a pleasure, others induce fatigue early. Your mate might be fine company at hour three, but is dangerous at the same speeds etc come hour 5 of a long ride. The same goes for the bikes themselves, some just do not like long high speed runs- brakes, tires and suspension can get "tired" over the day. I love a nice fast ride when I am in the "zone" but know, unless everyone else is at the same time, performance, maximum fun and safety suffer. With great pleasure comes great risk.

I may have not explained my view properly. And apologize if it seemed I was implying the low flight was not on. I know things are very different in the bush and mustering would be on the extreme end of it. I know it's dangerous hard work and yes done at low level and rarely above 150 ft, the natural flying environment. I did not wish to imply that flying sub 150 ft was his sin. I should have said he was not a suitable type of pilot for the job, as his complete lack of following the basics of flight prep, flight plan , been massively drunk, knowingly taking a passenger in that state etc. Not to mention turning off the locator beacon, would clearly make him someone who does not follow rules, regs or even common sense and felt no responsibility for others safety. He was clearly a danger to himself and others, both passenger and those working below him. No one, even on a muster should suffer such a pilot and allow that. He had bugger the rules attitude and even though obviously had a level of skill to operate a chopper, he demonstrated he was not fit and proper for the job. I can only imply from his actions, he was a thrill seeker who felt he was invincible. What I meant by the "camp must have known", was about the pilot been able to get so pissed the night before and be flying mere hours later when he was still very drunk. That by any definition is not a safe workplace and I don't imagine acceptable to even the most freedom loving musterer. I know many a stockman might feel a bit hung over and jump on a bike or in a 4wd etc but a heavily drunk pilot in a chopper is like Russian roulette and full chambers. I like a cold beer after work and begrudge no one a cold one, or more as along as you behave and are suitable for work next day, but flying and drinking should be always separate. I did not wish to imply the low level ops by their nature where the issue, that is just a essential part of the job that is inherently dangerous. I have great respect and admiration for chopper pilots esp in the harsh farm environment. It's a hard life and I take my hat off to them, same as the rest of the camp workers. My comments above workplace deaths and mining were not about just alcohol and drug testing, which is a necessary thing and generally appropriate but more about the companies see safety as a cost analysis issue. What's cheapest and what's easiest to ignore often wins the day and safety including for the environmental and social effects always become low orders of priority. Not all are the same, just like any other industry some are good and some are terrible. Clear skies and tailwinds.

The pilot was obviously a complete effwitt and should never have been in the air. I don't just mean that day either, a danger to all given his penchant for constant low flying for no reason but thrills and a bugger the rules attitude. 0.14 is pissed and almost 3 times the legal limit for driving and that is after sleep then flying, how drunk was he before taking flight? The old saying was "eight hours from bottle to throttle, and you write your destiny" and many versions of this have proved correct. To not consider alcohol as a primary factor in the crash is negligent of the ATSB. The poor passenger may not of died but surely was injured and scarred by it. It is sad he died for all, he should have lived and copped the full force of the law as punishment and deterence for others that might be so reckless and selfish. I hope that a chain of responsibility exists and is prosecuted, if the behaviour was not done in complete secrecy from the employer or representatives. To expect no one in camp etc knew, seems fanciful. It is a longtime since this and what has been done to ensure all the pilots and their employers, contractors etc are fully educated on their responsibility to ensure a safe workplace and the law, not just aviation rules and regs?. It's not like we have no government agencies that can be involved to assist in compliance and ensure the law is prosecuted when needed. I expect they have been badly lashed with a feather and nothing real will change. Just like in mining, acceptable deaths are built into the bottom line. I hope the passenger has recovered.

Next they will claim the moon is a CIA satellite controlling the weather. Only need to see the tiny bits left when a fast plane hits a solid object. Not much left. There are heaps of conspiracies but that is just fanciful crap.