Sky Gazer

As I said before - from first hand experience -I've been down this road with Jack and it ends in disappointment so don't get your hopes up nor criticise me for relaying some facts.

I thought it was pretty obvious .........a concept vs a product for sale . Also just offering some personal experience dealing with EPI

Good luck ...I'll believe it when I see it having waited several years with 2 Turbines sitting in Jack's workshop waiting for him to complete his reduction drive gearbox only to have him spit the dummy and fail to deliver I believe the Aeromomentum uses all new parts and is available as are the components to Aeromomentum Aircraft Engines, LSA, Experimental, Airboats, Aircraft Gearbox, 1500cc, 117hp

BEST of LUCK Pearo

So it is. THANKS Russ

Hi Russ I know you are a well respected member of ASRA and as such probably privy to this sort of information perhaps you can direct me to where this information is posted. As a newbie ASRA member I can only see 5 posts on the ASRA site regarding this incident and certaily nothing there that is indicative of the circumstances of the incident. Peter

Touche Kaz, You are correct -I just inverted the percentage value of 7.88861 x 10 to the 31st from excel and pasted it without rounding off. But the point is clear while the odds may be 50% for an individual random event the probabililty of the sequence is Phenomenal and CERTAINLY not the same as 50/50. Pete Coin Toss.xlsx Coin Toss.xlsx Coin Toss.xlsx

Interesting analogy Motzartmerv but perhaps a little misleading ? Yes the odds of throwing a tail would be 50% but the probability of throwing 100 tails in a row is one in 1282051282051282051282051282051.3- that's right ! Odds relate to a single independant event whilst probability looks at the relationship of a series of events in this case 100 consecutive coin tosses. That's why we don't regularly see it on Anzac Day. No offence intended, Pete

Hi Russ, I can understand your frustration when terrible things like this happen to our fellow aviators with an immense of experience under their belt. As a VERY low time time pilot with no claims to being anything more than a learner and the realisation that parts can and do fail from normal wear and tear or external forces ( like a bird strike) I thank my lucky start for the invention of the BRS. I am certainly not too proud or foolish to think I may have the skills or experience to overcome the odds when confronted with such a stressful situation so my Check List ensures BRS pin out -just in case- I don't want to be fumbling around to remove it if the time ever comes and especially when every second counts. Pete

How could you possibly come PLUMMETING down when you still have one skid on the ground?

Hi Matt It sounds like you must have been wandering around with Critter ? Pete

Has anyone had an update recently ?

Hi Matt, I'd go with the Acrylic it has a hardness factor (more accurately an impact resistance factor) of 25 when compared to glass while Polycarbonate comes up at about 44 but bear in mind that impact resistance means it is softer and deforms ( as well as SCRATCHES) that much easier. Acrylic is tintable and not too hard to work with that's what most canopies are made from anyway. Glad to see you are flying the bugger, Good luck, Pete

Yes there is a known problem and a solution found and in place - unfortunately the availability of the components is an issue. Yes grounding the A/C until it complies is not an unreasonable request and maybe CASA should have done so or at least restricted operations until the repairs were completed. As for the argument that the passengers were not aware of the status of the AC I don't know how far you can realistically push that point as all air crew or passengers put their lives in the hands of the pilot whenever they go flying. They do not know and cannot be expected to know the intricacies of the aircraft that is the pilot''s domain. They trust that the Pilot in command as having assessed the aircraft an deemed it safe for flight under the prevailing conditions as he or she assumes responsibility for all on board. If its not safe or conditions are beyond your level of control then DON'T risk your life let alone anyone else who has placed their faith in your abilities. All I am saying is lets stop pointing the finger of blame at everyone else but the pilot. From the photos in the news article I can't see why he was so close to the trees to start with it sure looks like there was plenty of room to land without getting anywhere near them. Would I go flying in an R44 without the Bladder update? NO and that is the choice I personally would make just as this pilot COULD and as we now know should have done.

Really ? I'd like to see you explain that to the families of all involved.

Wow what tradjedy .- Unfortunately it has turned into a political soapa box to persecute CASA and Robinson. The bottom line is it was Pilot error- Neither Frank Robinson nor CASA were flying the chopper when it struct the tree initiating the disaster. As pilots we know that we take the lives of any passengers in our hands the moment we buckle up and turn the key - Ignorance is no excuse but accidents do happen. Yes I agree the outcome would most likely been more favourable if the R44 was equipped with the bladders but the pilot would have known this. The Pilot decided to proceed with the flight and botched the landing so he /she must ultimately assume responsibility for the outcome whether here or not. Why do we always have to blame (litigate ) someone else for every and any unfortunate accident or are there no longer ANY accidents? More people die in Fords than Robbies why don't we have them all taken off the road too?

Hi Scott, The Golf I learned to fly in did not have side access doors or roll down windows like my car with a "bubble "canopy/cabin- rather it was a slide action which would be pretty difficult to work upside down with the weight of the plane on it. Pete

Hi Wags, Yes a very nice solution . Just one query ,why do you use the pin and the padlock? Wouldn't the shaft of the pad lock do the job on its own? Peter

Ok .... I'll bite .. What is a Cobri???

Hi Mick, I am Col's Hangar at the moment for $130 /month but was in another previously that was $165/month and I had to move a Jabiru and a trike just to get the CT out and no water or power - Now why did I movei_dunno Pete

Hmmmm I'd have to disagree with you on that one.... It doesn't mater how good a pilot you are, if you have an air frame failure or loose control surfaces there is only one path you'll be taking -unless you or the plane has a chute :thumb_up: peter

When you service the public it is a little difficult to just start earlier. Exactly The Majority of the state may be west of 150 BUT the majority of the population lives on the Eastern limit the coast and in particular the SE corner. Incidently the last couple of surveys undertaken were OVER WHELMINGLY in favour of DLS - it is the ones done in FNQ that already have the later sunset that are against it. Regards, peter

That depends on whether you are coming or going :confused: Actually that just goes to reinforce my comment:laugh: Why would you want to back out into oncoming traffic ;) particularly when you have Bloody tall 4WD or Van parked next to you obscuring your view totally.:ah_oh: Peter