Thanks for that Dazza , you were correct by saying a spanner in the works, perhaps the people at Freedom can lurn from the Seamax, I like the mirror on the float a simple and effective option , I dont like the cloth wing though, to me a maintenance issue! so I think fixed at the beginning and work towards something like the seamax after. First for me is to start and thats why its my dream at the moment $, thankyou for the info its a good plane , just the cloth worries me.