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The extra time they will spend on ISS is not longer than others have spent so I think the effects are well understood. Station Record Holders

Turbo I am not particularly attracted to fringe hypothesis. It is difficult to find serious archeologists that accept the ancient light bulb myth. But I would be happy to peruse any academic source.

no not a chainsaw, anyone can see it is a condom

Of course, we can't rule out alien visitors or parallel universes. My problem is that often we start out with an observation that is not immediately understandable. Because it is not immediately understandable it doesn't mean we should rush to the other end of the list of possibilities. Videos that are posted fall into a few different categories. There are those that are obviously CGI. My son is a 3D animator and owns his own company. As a teenager, he made a very convincing video where 3-D objects were added to real footage (compositing). In his case he was using 3D Studio Max software and later Maya. I remember he made a short Star Wars parody video. Most people do reject these over-the-top videos. Then there are videos or photos that are misinterpreted. Things like Bokeh or other artifacts. Sometimes it is a case of neglecting to take into account the relative movements between the camera and the object. Here is an illustration of that. the maker of this video is Mick West a retired PC games artist and skeptic, although he is quite open about the fact that we shouldn't just rule things out (or in). This is an analysis of the so-called gimbal video filmed from a navy aircraft. It is a bit of a time investment *21 minutes) but interesting. Apart from the UFO/UAP angle, it is a great insight into how these cameras work. The other thing that makes me skeptical is the whole idea that alien spacecraft have been regular visitors for many years. I struggle to find a reason why this would be worthwhile. If these visitations are real then they have been going on long enough for us to be reasonably confident that they are not trying to wipe us out or harm us. If they are merely observing us to learn something then it makes you wonder why the process has not been completed by now and what it is that they hope to learn from a relatively primitive civilisation, at least technologically speaking. Crashed alien craft also strikes me as being unlikely. To be able to travel vast distances only to crash once inside the atmosphere seems odd to me. If the government is in possession of alien technology they don't seem to have learned much from it. I would have expected much greater innovation in aeronautics and space travel. I don't for the most part doubt that many observers are genuine. We humans are not necessarily great at being eyewitnesses, we know this from interviews with witnesses to plane crashes.

I am not quite sure what you mean by this. My point was about photographic evidence. To put it perhaps more clearly I am saying this: The number of cameras in the community has increased massively in recent years. The quality of those cameras has improved markedly. I would expect that photographic evidence would be more likely than in the past. I brought the space junk in Melbourne as an example of an event that in the past may never have been photographed. This event happened around midnight when the majority of people were asleep yet there are several reasonable-quality pictures from different vantage points. When I see a video of an alleged UFO or UAP and if it seems remarkable, my first question is did anyone else video it? To make it clear I believe that it is almost certain that life exists elsewhere in the universe. I also believe that due to the immense size of the universe and the distances involved and given the cosmic speed limit that the odds of meeting are low but not zero.

It was unexpected and in fact, it was not initially known to be space junk. https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/science/space/ootw-space-space-junk-streaks-across-australian-sky-as-bright-fireball "Assumed, at first glance, to be a meteor" "Thomas Toose, a farmer in Creswick, Victoria, northwest of Melbourne, called the sight "surreal" and told Storyful it "was massive and lasted about 20 seconds." I am open-minded on the subject however I have yet to a picture or footage that does not have a more mundane explanation.

My point was that many people managed to photograph the space junk last night whether with phone cameras or otherwise. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHZO_enAU915AU915&sxsrf=AB5stBjJXwt5pWNdSCFbWj9ogQk-Bn5Qow:1691474496831&q=melbourne+space+junk&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjCzZ7EscyAAxV3yDgGHfzoCo0Q0pQJegQICxAB&biw=2133&bih=1025&dpr=0.9#imgrc=Fzlx0K5N-GUxwM

My question would be where are the good-quality pictures or video? in an age where we all carry a reasonable camera (in our phone) around with us. Whilst it is true that it may be difficult for most people to think to photograph or video a short-lived event out of the huge population you would think that there would be more than a few grainy ill-defined pictures. last night in Melbourne some space junk re-entered the atmosphere. This event was unexpected and short-lived yet there were loads of fairly sharp photos and videos. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHZO_enAU915AU915&sxsrf=AB5stBjJXwt5pWNdSCFbWj9ogQk-Bn5Qow:1691474496831&q=melbourne+space+junk&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjCzZ7EscyAAxV3yDgGHfzoCo0Q0pQJegQICxAB&biw=2133&bih=1025&dpr=0.9#imgrc=4HIvsWCRm7s16M It is reasonable to believe that in the past photographic evidence would be rare but today with good-quality phone cameras, dash cams CCTV, etc. it is hard to understand why there doesn't seem to be any reasonable quality images.

Not without reason. Often there are faults. In the video posted earlier where the creature crosses in front of vehicles with their headlights on I would expect a pronounced shadow. Since almost everyone carries a camera on their phone I would expect n there to be more than one version.

I found myself accidentally at a talk by this guy. I went to see the film "Miracle on the Hudson". Mike Smith is also the owner of the Sun Theatre in Yarraville. He is responsible for saving and restoring this amazing Art Deco cinema. Before I could enter the cinema to watch this film I had to wait for a school group to exit. The school group had just finished listening to a talk and slide show with Michael Smith. When the audience entered the theatre he was starting to pack up his slide show but I think we convinced him to do a quick run-through of his presentation before the film. This was extra enjoyable because it was unexpected.

Nice aerobatic display over my house this afternoon.

Turbs I do a lot of reading even past the headlines. Saying a professional has given his or her opinion is a little vague. I am more than happy to read any factual articles you care to post and I will even read past the headloines.

Yes. The Best EV Electricity Plans in Australia

If this is true (and it isn't) then it will very soo become evident. How does it work in Norway? Yes Norway has a lot of Hydro however the problems with their existing electrical distribution system must be somewhat similar to ours. The number of EVs in Norway has increased massively in the last few years. Presumably they have not rebuilt their whole network of poles and wires in such a short time. We are not talking about crude timers on chargers. It is a case of chargers that talk to the grid. Are buildings and carparks burning down in Norway? https://risefr.no/media/publikasjoner/upload/2020/report-2020-30-charging-of-electric-cars-in-parking-garages.pdf A charger connected to a common source is not really different from any other public charger. The charging is paid for using an app. and a third party such as Vista Vista Charge. This is being done now. https://vpt.com.au/blog/guide-to-smart-ev-charging-in-strata-car-parking/ No one is saying that we could go 100% EV tomorrow. This is for many reasons not possible. The gird of today evolves to suit our needs. Most of the network problems you have pointed out should also apply to other countries that are ahead of us with EV adoption. We are not on the leading edge of change in this country. I am sure I wont convince you of anything. You say it "can't work" if you are correct the next few years will support your view. EVs will begin to disappear overseas and here the adoption will slow and stop. I suspect that EV adoption will continue and increase. I suspect new houses apartments and buildings will built with EV charging in mind. I suspect the grid will evolve along with this change to support and also utilize EV batteries. Time will tell. We should revisit this subject every few years and see which way the trend is going.

No. my point was that infrastructure is adapting. As you point out eVs are a tiny portion of the fleet and it would be ridiculous to over capitalize or get too far ahead of the curve. A network of petrol stations or sealed roads did not predate the motor car. Not such a frantic wikisearch as you condescendingly put it. I am quite aware of what is happening with the EV space and quite involved with our local council. Your article about people travelling across the US was no doubt something you searched for either frantically or not. Actually I am familiar with that article There are plenty of critiques about the mistakes they made and the suggestion was that it was designed to fail. The Wall Street Journal Made A "Trip" By EV...And It Just Proved How Clueless People Are About EVs.. I am not sure why you believe I am posting BS here. The streets are probably 25 years plus away from being purely populated by EVs. With most manufacturers announcing phase out times in the early 30s we will see plenty of ICE vehicles around into the 40s (if they are still economical]. I am not sure what area you live in but it is somewhat surprising that there are only 3 chargers locally. I have 6 within 2km of me also interestingly in the nearby industrial area I noticed a couple of private chargers belonging to businesses. There is a wool business, not quite sure what it does (grading or bailing or something). I stopped for a chat with a fellow because I wanted to ask about his particular EV. It seems that he and a couple of other workers pay a small weekly amount to charge their cars whilst working. The building also has rooftop solar. Seems like a nice arrangement. You are being a little contemptuous here. Auckland to Wellington is about 650KM much of it through steep hilly country. He has toured the South Island (extremely hilly) Certainly in Australia we do have vast distances and for the near term although people are doing epic trips it is more of an enthusiast project. I most certainly would not suggest that anyone needing to do this kind of driving should get an EV at this point in time. Your council area may only have 3 charging points at this time. Geelong has 11 public sites each with multiple outlets plus another number of Chargeshare (where an individual makes their home charger available for a price) If as we get towards the 2030s EVs are not filling the bill then ICE vehicle sales will soar and EV sales decline. I believe if this happens the manufacturers and governments will step back from EVs. Petrol cars will not be totally disappearing anytime soon. Turbs we are discussing ideas here there is no need for talk of BS and frantic wikisearches and the condescending "old short New Zealand" I am more than happy for us to politely disagree with each other and to discuss ideas.

There are problems real and perceived. I am not convinced that a gradual change towards EVs represent a greater challenge than the adoption of the early motor vehicle. Petrol stations sprang up because it became impractical for the masses to buy their fuel from a pharmacy. What people tend to do is to extrapolate forward to a time where most people drive an EV but they imagine this situation with todays infrastructure. When I was a child my family got to the point that they could afford to have to phone connected. This involved much trenching and conduit running up walls. When I built my house the done thing was to get the house prewired for telephone. Nowadays you would not build a house without provision for internet. Whilst it is true that some premises may pose difficulties for EV charging there are many years before this problem needs to be solved in every case.

These issues are being addressed All charged up: Councils push for kerbside car charging Now you can charge your EV from the footpath

New Apartments in Australia Will Need to Be EV Charger-Ready From 2023

It looks like the BEV version is on the front but the Hybrid may be on the right.

Sorry to be pedantic but isn't the MG socket is in the front of the vehicle

I totally agree. The point of me introducing the finite resource argument is that those who don't accept anthropomorphic climate change still have to deal with the fact after squeeze the last drop of crude oil out of the earth we are still left with no oil for the chemical industries and a need to power our cars and jets in another way.

I did make the point that this would suit me but probably would not suit others. With most of my trips being on the grid and also an asset. A fleet owner, lets say a courier company doing short trips could charge in the early hours and when they return to the depot can be used to sell some of their remaining electricity back to the grid when the early peak hits. This is already being done overseas and there are trials running here. New V2G chargers progress Flinders University’s ‘virtual battery’ vision The Value of The V2G Business Model For an EV Fleet Manager Whilst it is early days and it is probably easy to come up with doubt it is good that people are working on innovation. 22nd as far as I can see or just above Japan. To be fare there are differences in our use due to long distances some have to travel. If we get towards the 2030s and EV technology cant do what the people want it to do then they will vote with their wallets. ICE cars sales will increase whilst ICE cars are still sold and EV will sales decrease. The people will also vote accordingly. I don't really see any great point of debate here. I think we are in exciting times. In the past the grid was a one way street, today it is getting smarter with electricity flowing to the house or business premises or car or truck and the ability for it to flow the other way. I agree ICE technology has improved markedly since the 70s. Technology tends to do this. Those improvements were incremental. The early Wright brothers aircraft were a bit of a joke in terms of transporting people over a long distance. The progress that led to the airliners of today was also incremental, We didn't look at each development and say we should wait until we can build a 747. Oil is a fantastic resource that can be used for so many useful things. Burning it if we can help it seems to be the worst thing we can do with it. My expectation is that the next 20 years of technologic development will be of the same magnitude at least as the last 20 years. I am expecting the cars and airliners of the mid century to be vast improvements of what we have now. I can be hard to imagine, we tend to be influenced by the "end of history" fallacy. There is a quote by Neil Armstrong that appeals to me. "Science has not yet mastered prophecy. We predict too much for the next year and yet far too little for the next 10."