To all RA devotees, I am more than happy with the current situation, all I was pointing out is, a single engine 152 Cessna looks and in some way handles the same as my 610 lycoming powered brumby highwing but I can't fly the 152 but I lay money on it that I have the skills to fly it , I was not and am not talking about air rules ie controlled air space, just skills to fly planes and that VH reg jab is the same as RA reg jab etc. GA have ppl , cpl for VFR , IFR, these are pilot endorsements and they can fly a 152 but can not fly a RA plane but I bet they can . Thanks very one its been great talking to you all , we have seen some serious development in RA flight and one biggest thing i like about RA devotees have over GA is , RA pilots are a happy contented lot that enjoy more hours flying than a lot of Ga pilots and do it cheaper. Thanks I am moving on to the next topic , clear sky's Steve