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Ah.... Quick to complain yourself but are reluctant to actually instruct and/or educate. Your cred' has gone from LOW to NON-EXISTANT for me.

So to educate the village idiot, why don't you tell me the DEFINTION of a overfly? And that isn't the part which concerns me.

Well, as you do know better, you tell me what the other plane was doing when I was joinging crosswind. They weren't taking off, I know that. They were about 500 feet in the air, above the runway (flying along the runway). So was it a "go around"? Or were they simply overflying the runway? there was no radio call telling anyone.

Y know Motza, As true as you may be, you seem to be promoting what they did. And if CASA are or not interested, I am quite capable of asking them myself and getting THEIR opinion. If people do something different to what they say, then there is a problem with how they were instructed. There are proceedures for reasons. I did not do a go around seeeing the person overlying. There was someone overflying/going around as I was joining cross wind. I just read what I said. There seems to be a problem with you parsing what I wrote. It was quite clearly stated. When I was on SHORT FINAL the plane infront landed - after another interesting observation of their flying - and basically stopped on the runway. I made a call and they didn't really do much to help me. Granted they have/had "right of way". But if that is the attitude they promote at the school, then I feel there is a problem with what is being told as the right thing to do.

JYQ - Warnervale Air Pty Ltd, can't have been behaving badly on an unfamiliar strip. So they were local. So I would hope they would have been more professional than what tey did at "their own strip". Or is this "typical" of them? I have heard they have an attitude unto them selves that RAA and "outsiders" are not welcome. But that aside, I made all the required calls and this plane made none and just (basically) sat on the runway after landing. Not exactly professional or polite.

Yeah, and considering that it worked at YWOL, and when I was talking to Sydney radar, I can't believe it suddenly failed then/there. It was also working when I got to Cessnock. So honestly I don't think it wasn't working Motza.

Yeah. I am going to call CASA about it too. I can't belive what happened. The other story was just as amusing. Same plane watching them on final. I thought I was going to see a crash.

Folks, I was attempting to fly to above airport on Sat from Wollongong. Alas I got as far as Warnervale and the weather had other plans. I thought it would be a good idea to land there and wait out the weather and see what happens. I was EAST of the strip and heard that runway 20 was the active one. That was good, as all I had to do was cross over, descend and join cross wind. So: It is drizziling, there were planes in the circuit - unknow number - and I wanted to land. Made an inbound call. NO REPLY. Not really expected though. Made a 3 mile call. NO REPLY. Other planes making occasional calls. (note: occasional) Overflew and went to the dead side. Got down to 1000 feet and joined crosswind. Made joining call. There was another plane "overflying the runway" (go around?) and I watched him. NO REPLY. That's a bit annoying. Somewhere else there was another plane in the circuit. As I passed over the runway, I looked out the right window and checked the plane I just saw and he was where I expected him to be. Flew out a bit and turned left for downwind. Did downwind checks. Pump, fuel, switches (bumps and turbulance), hatches and harness. Looked back out the window! WTF!!?? A plane! Yikes! Where did he come from??!! Really throttled back. and held short. Heard a "turning base" call. The plane infront didn't turn, so there must have been another plane again infront of him as well. Kept flying downwind. No radio calls heard. The plane infront of me turned base. NO RADIO CALL. I held on downwind and let him get further on BASE. Turned base. "Traffic Warnervale, ....... turning base 20 FULL STOP, Warnervale." There were other radio calls from a Tecnam made now and then for Warnervale, but it wasn't for base/final, so I didn't worry too much and it proved to me that I was on the right frequency. Watched the other plane. He turned FINAL.. NO RADIO CALL HEARD. I turned final and watched. There is another story here but let's keep to this story. They "landed" and just sat on the runway. I had to do a go-around. This plane was a GA plane. VH-JYQ Congrats dude. You may need to learn how to use a radio.

Fantastic. I am now green.

Though it was said there would be red faces at the de-brief, I am sure the controller would have a few questions to answer as well. Vectoring them in on the wrong airport. During the landing the controller had every chance to say "Wrong airport - GO ROUND!" but didn't.

And how many "Oh my god" did you count in the LANDING one?

Ya just gotta laugh. These "muppets" who read the weather. As accurate a quote from what I heard as possible. "Southerly winds turning to the east." Classic. I think that would be an EASTERLY wind myself.

No, I think Optus are just trying to be a bit "One man up" on him.

Hi guys. I shall try to read all the posts when I can (and get time). Question/s: 1 - If people keep breaking the sound barrier, who is the poor person who has to keep fixing it? 2 - That person from back in the 60's... (sorry real short term memory failure). Didn't he break the sound barrier?

Um, Obviously most of the ones I have seen around are all geared up for the Airbus. "OBVIOUSLY"? What aren't you telling us?

Yossel worked in a Polish pickle factory. For many years he had a powerful desire to put his penis in the pickle slicer. Unable to stand it any longer, he sought professional help from the factory psychologist. After six months, the therapist gave up. He advised Yossel to go ahead and do it or he would probably never have any peace of mind. The next day he came home from work very early. His wife, Sacha, became alarmed and wanted to know what had happened. Yossel tearfully confessed his tormenting desire to put his penis in the pickle slicer. He went on to explain that today he finally went ahead and did it, and he was immediately fired. Sacha gasped and ran over to her husband. She quickly yanked down his pants and shorts only to find a normal, completely intact penis. She looked upand said, "I don't understand. What about the pickle slicer?" Yossel replied, "I think she got fired, too.

Just another thought. Ok, what happened happened. *IF* I was in a situation like that and had a "cheaper" EPIRB, or even maybe one with GPS.... If I knew I was going in, I would activate it and let the rest take its own path. WRT "the EPIB being destroyed on impact". Well, ok, maybe. And if so as was said: It would be accademic how fast they were found. However: If it was understood we were "going in", I would maybe entertain the idea of throwing the EPIRB out the window before we hit the ground. Although we won't be CLOSE to the EPRIB, it would survive and would be close enough to at least help expediate closing the question to "our" condition/status/situation.

Ok, I am getting in late. But days ago I heard on the news that the EPRIB was triggered then turned off. Well, ok it was turned off. But when it was triggered, wouldn't they have got a fix on it and known where to look? Shutting up now.

You buy me the I-Pad, and I may.

Thanks Andy. Dunno why I didn't know of that. I used to go to there but had to log in with user name/password. Have they made it not needed now? (This is where I went/go....) https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/brief/Default.asp?

Help folks. I know if I go to airservices I can get weather reports. But you need to keep the account active and if it is more than 90 days, the account is closed. Alas it has been WAY longer than that for me and so the account is closed. However, I have: Au Weather Free, Aviation Weather and Aviation Weather with decoder. Not bad, but I can't work out how to get AREA forecasts. Not only that, but putting in ICAO codes doesn't always yield results. I can get YSSY and maybe YSCB but YSBK, YSCN, YGLB all get nothing. If I put in 21 (area 21) I get nothing. Help - someone.

No, I had trouble watching it. Just click on the "Watch on youtube" option when the "denied" thingy pops up.

I think that is the fool of whom I spoke at the beginning of my post. This was on the news not so long ago.

Honestly: Dunno. Probably nothing. I probably will update/fix/use the sheet Eric put here. I think in another life I was a cat. Always curious.

Thanks.