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The term "motorboating" was used by another person to discribe the voltage dropping below usable while the unit it trying to transmit. Maybe not the "accepted" meaning, but that is how he discribed it.

Yeah, I am not bagging the people who rent the plane. I shall have to try and find time myself to try and work out where/what the fault/problem is. But as the plane is 1.6 hours away from me, it is not something I can do just any time.

Well, I have my headset. I don't like snogging everyone else who have flown the plane. Ok, it is a cheapy, but it has worked on other Jab's - but that may not be saying much. First time I have flown that one and transmitting when in the circuit (or turning base/final) with no revs, is basically pointless as the CHARGE light is glowing quite brightly and pusing the TX button bascailly the radio fails.

Only the Asian market would crash. And only for the two/three months leading up to December. :(

Andy, Ok, I left my self open there. The other stations are reporting the distortion. I can "squelsh out" any muck I hear from myself. I am asking for Sydney QNH and need to ask more than once and Sydney radar are informing me of broken transmission with background noise. There are no other headphones plugged in at the time and the intercom is also set to ISOLATE. The voltage reading I am getting if from the Dynon EFIS.

And the weirdest part is that "they" still don't know how tranquilisers work. (skewz the spelling if wrong.)

Skyfox, Well no not yet. It only started happening the other day. I'll post updates, but was interested in people's thoughts on anything else which could be causing the problem.

Thanks, Nev. Shall try maybe one day. But it is a rental. So I can't just do these things at will. Also don't know if the battery voltage is good enough. I shall try it next time with engine not running and see what happens. I guess the only "trick" is getting someone to monitor me while parked. Then start engine and see if it makes any difference.

Ok, another question. Though I should probably ask Jabiru....... but here goes: Ok, start up for the Jab' is basically: Master on, fuel pump for a few seconds, then off. Mags on, and start. Take off, is fuel pump on and take off. In flight turn fuel pump off - to help with fuel flow / litres/hour calcs. Granted. But this is where I am stuck: Reading about fuel systems in planes - which may or may not include Jab's - there is the main fuel line to the carb'/injectors, going via an "optional" electric fuel pump. There is also a RETURN line for "excess fuel" to return to the tank. As a worded sequence would go it would read: Fuel tank - fuel pump - fuel flow gauge - carb' -(split to) engine and return line. (or something like that.) Isn't there a fuel PRESSURE gauge in there somewhere? Anyway..... I would have thought it would be "smarter" to have the fuel flow AFTER the return line? Then, when you get in you turn on the master, and turn on the fuel pump. You would see the fuel pressre go up, so you have established the fuel line is ok. Zero fuel flow - or you have a leak. Turn off fuel pump. Start engine. Monitor fuel flow. Turning on the pump would/SHOULD not alter the fuel flow, ONLY the pressure. Again: Am I missing something here? I'm only asking with the hope of learning.

Ok, I have asked and been given AN explination, but in thinking about it: What was said doesn't quite work for me. No offence to the person who said it. Scenario: Jab' with radio. My head set. When in flight and I talk, it is distorted with a lot of background noise and "pulsing". It was said this is called "motor boating" and it is because the altermeter is not big/strong enogh to handle the load. Sounds plausible. But let's look at some things which I feel/think fail that idea: I am flying, not idling. The revs are at about 2700, the voltage is 14.4 and there is little else on. IE: No landing lights, no NAV lights, no beacon, no strobes. Just the radio, Xponder, EFIS and HSI. Oh, ok, and my GPS plugged in the AUX socket. Now, fair enough voltage and current are different things, but if the alternator wasn't cutting it, wouldn't the voltage also be fluctuating? And there is a battery in the equation to "fill in the gaps" if the alternator wasn't producing enough output. Of course throughout this the CHARGE light is NOT glowing. It does at idle. So who has any other ideas? Yes, I know that usually with that kind of problem the power supply is the first and major suspect. But given the voltage (inndicated) is 14.4 at the time, it sort of shoots that idea dead. At idle, the voltage goes down to 11.9/what ever. I can clearly see that with revs/power the voltage increases, which makes sense. Anyone?

Facthunter, Thanks. Live and learn.

Glint, Possibily part of the reason the plane pulled left could be torque. However, others have explained what you need to do - and even you said you worked it out. There is no harm in what you did. We make mistakes. And the reason we do is to learn by them (Batman, Alfred to Bruce as a child.) One question for you though is: Why flaps up? From what I understand, you keep flaps down until you have established a positive rate of climb and are high enough to be safe. Lifting the flaps kills lift, and that close to the ground CAN be dangerous. So I was told to keep them down until things are sorted out. Am I wrong? Anyway, safe flying. Keep learning and keep enjoying yourself.

Ok, over "bush" or ocean/water the lowest is 500 feet AGL (or AWL) - unless you are landing. But over towns...... 1,000 or 1,500? I remember 1,000 but someone said it is 1,500. Hey, don't shoot me. I want to be sure.

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OK, there were structural failures. But it still leaves the question open for me: Was there a compete/propper pre-flight done? Did they fail because of things that happened during the flight or is it they were "neglected"/not seen for a long time?

Ok, my turn. (I can't keep up with all the posts. So forgive me if I re-state things.) The accident happened. There is nothing we can do about it now. The "factors" involved are: The PILOT - first and foremost. The weather. The plane. The airstrip. The wheel which was hit. I can't really think of more, though some will say things like "the concil", "the operator of the fair" and so on. But let's look at what happened: Another plane had already landed. This plane had already done a touch and go. The pilot had overflown the field. He didn't see the wheel. The other plane didn't bother to mention the wheel. If I am not mistaken from what I have read: This plane landed in the opposite direction to the other plane. The pilot's skills. Although it is nice to think that in a prefect world when something like this happens, the plane won't fall appart - and it didn't if I remember - the pilot's descisions prior to the event need to be looked at above all else. It is a bit silly saying the plane's construction can't withstand impact "X" so should be faulted. The pilot put the plane in that situation and so may have put the structure beyond it's design limit. Not only that, but the second plane's pilot not mentioning something along the lines of, "Hey silly, what are you doing landing WITH the wind. Use the other runway!" Would have gone a fair way to reducing the problem. P.S. The daily Tele. Pg 13 (Wendesday)

Though I am trying on their forum, I am stuck with some things. Anyone?

Folks, Need help. Ok, it may be WHERE I have the files, but I am stuck with a problem about listening to music. I have an 8 Gig card in the phone and a bit of music, sounds etc. Obviously some sounds are used for alerts, ring tones, etc. If/when I go walkies, I plug in the head phones and listen to music. It is annoying when the phone plays a ring tone or alert tone in the play list. I can't "remove" the sound from the play list without deleting it from the phone - or at least the way I have learnt to delete from the playlist. Can some one educate this little dog.

A very similar story was circulated but it was supposedly from John Clease. (spelling?)

Sorry, buy haven't read all the rest of the replies. Hang on..... When I was doing my BFR and was doing climbouts in a new plane I was shown the problem of taking the flaps up TOO SOON! So if he did take the flaps up they would have lost even more lift and so have climbed out even lower. Do you mean: I wonder if he took the flaps up too soon? Just asking.

Q: Why does Tinkerbell fly around, around and around? . . . . . . . (yeah well keep reading below) . . . . . . . . . (I have to put some space here) A: She's from never never land.

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Ok dumb question: Where's the gallery? I'm still not both feet on the ground. And tomorrow I am off to Tumut for their fly in.

OK, where do you want me to put my piccies?

I'm just annoyed I can't join that gym called Fernwood.