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Ok, more a question than a "problem". I stuck an 8 Gig sd card in the phone and coppied a lot of music onto it. I also have custom ring tones and SMS tones. I was out the other day with the headp-phones plugged in, listening to the music. It was a bit tricky getting it to play ALL the songs. As it was, it would only play that directory/CD and loop. Anyway, so I was listening to the music. Suddenly I hear the message for reminders being played. I quickly grab the phone and proceed to look for the alert. Funny, there isn't one. Then I realise that it is playing ALL the music. Now, granted: All is All, but if I want to listen to the songs/music and not hear the ring tones (etc), is there a way to do this? Ofcourse the extra ring tones ARE stored on the SD card. This may be part of the "problem" but anyway...... Anyone? P.S. I'm still stuck on 2.1 too. :(

Well, David and I got it working. *&*&^&* Fire walls! Now, I can be on the net and also see my other machines. As well, the other machines can also surf the net. The latter is a bonus, but will be handy now and then.

Dave, No, still hitting head on brick wall. BTW Got my PM?

Watching the news. Wow, who has some spare money? I want to buy one.

Yeah, well, don't worry about the plan. It is not to steamgiga bytes etc. It is just now and then when I am on the net I want to get things off the lappy, and though USB sticks is an option, it is silly if I could just plug it in the LAN and see the main machine as well.

Ok, I didn't tick the HTTP box. So, if I want only browsers to work, that is the only box to tick - right?

Lappy now on and plugged in. Changed the DNS to 1 instead of 7. Still can't get on the net. Maybe because I haven't ticked all the right boxes when I was setting up ICS. Off to look.

So I guess I shall have to change the other machine (which isn't on the LAN just now) from 1 to ....... something else.

Ok, went though the motions and established ICS. Yeah, I was told the IP of this computer will be changd to .1 Slightly annoying. Can't test it just yet but can I change it back to .7 and have the ICS working?

Ok, here we go. (Drum roll) Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] © Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Shepherd>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : blacksheep Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 CT Network Connect ion Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-5B-8A-87 Above: This was no switch turned on. C:\Documents and Settings\Shepherd>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : blacksheep Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 CT Network Connect ion Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-5B-8A-87 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.7 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.7 Above: This was with the switch turned on. C:\Documents and Settings\Shepherd>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : blacksheep Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 CT Network Connect ion Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-5B-8A-87 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.7 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.7 C:\Documents and Settings\Shepherd>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : blacksheep Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 CT Network Connect ion Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-5B-8A-87 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.7 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.7 Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HTC Remote NDIS based Device Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 72-51-4C-C7-14-92 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Above: Phone plugged in, set to "internet sharing" but 3G not turned on. Now it gets interesting. C:\Documents and Settings\Shepherd>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : blacksheep Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : local Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 CT Network Connect ion Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-5B-8A-87 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.7 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.7 Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : local Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HTC Remote NDIS based Device Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 72-51-4C-C7-14-92 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.100.100 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.100.254 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.100.254 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.100.254 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, 11 May 2011 17:12:05 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 21 May 2011 17:12:05 C:\Documents and Settings\Shepherd> Ok, I now see the TWO IP numbers. I still have my LAN and also have the HTC's IP number. Shall look at the ICS link now. Just wanted to post what I found now before I forget.

Wow! Isn't it amazing how they turned gravity down when filming that..... ;)

Me thinks the autofocus wasn't turned on as when she is zooming in to things outside the cabin they are blurred, and as she widens the shot, the cabin is in focus. Oh well. But it is nice she enjoyed it. Looking, I'm guessing that is the LSA and not a 160, right?

Fly, can you explain "only works one way" a bit more?

David, I'm only reporting what I see happening. Phone unplugged the IP is what I set in the config window. Plug the phone in and get the IP address, it changes from 0.x to 100.100 (rest being the same) I have a program which is basically IPconfig but with a GUI. I run it and click the RESOLVE button and it shows me the machine's IP address. But, I shall try it when I get home both before and after the phone is connected and report back. Note/reminder: The phone is 2.1! :(

Until I get home I can't do anything. When I get home I shall try this ICS - and read the links from Andy to get up to speed with them. So, until then - this afternoon - nothing is going to happen.

I have a D-Link 1 gig switch. 24 port. DG-S 1024 is the model. Got it at a good price. D-link are usually crap, but for the right price, I thought I would use it. Otherwise I have a skymaster 100 Meg switch. Teenyweeny thing with 8 ports. The D-link has 24. (Yeah, I'm getting ambitious) ;) I don't think it is able to be programmed - which is kind of good, kind of bad.

With the phone plugged into the computer and connected to 3G, all I can do is surf the net on THAT machine. The LAN is dead in the water - because the PC's IP address has been changed from 0.x to 100.100 which is way outside the subnet mask range. Other PC's on the LAN work within themselves, but no-one can see the PC plugged into the phone - for reasons stated. And The PC plugged into the phone can't see any of the PC's on the LAN.

First parragraph. NO I WASN'T (or now am no longer) BRIDGING THE CONNECTIONS. My LAN IS 192.168.0.x Has been since day dot. I "bridged" the connections recently and the other machines could not see the internet, I couldn't see the other machines from my machine with the phone plugged in. (This was done because I was told that bridging is what I needed. Be it I asked the wrong question or what ever.) Hmmmm....... Looked at the IP number of this machine and found it to be 192.168.100.100 "Wow, what has done this?" I thinks. Unplug the phone (or delete the bridge) and it reverts to 192.168.0.x Ok, so obviously BRIDGING doesn't work. I am very sure the phone's "IP" address which I am seeing (192.168.100.100) is on the ICS side of things, as I have been told that 192.168.x.x are specifically for LOCAL networks and not for use on the internet. Second parragraph. Isn't that what I said? I have 192.168..... Ok, 10.xx.xx.xx is also allowed. BRIDGING IS TURNED OFF - This was done days ago when I realised the PC's IP address was being changed from 0.x to 100.100 when the phone was plugged in and the LAN was dead/un-usable. Now I shall have to look into more of this ICS when I get home. (At work just now) Reading next reply now.

bass, I wasn't arguing. I have turned off bridging. It doesn't work. Andy, Reading your post, it is getting WAY too complicated. I have a machine I use mostly. I plug the phone into the USB port and connect to the 3G network. All is sweet. Now and then, it is handy to have internet access from other machines. Instead of having to move the phone to the other machine and do what I have to then back to the "main" machine I was hoping for an easy solution. setting up another machine means I have to get it setup with windoze - as I don't think HTC have a LINUX/UNIX version of their teather software - and boot it up if I want internet access. Wow..... WAY too difficult. :( It isn't a 3G dongle. It is a HTC Desire. I guess what an easy solution to it is that I change my fixed IP addresses to something in the range which the phone is giving me at the computer (USB) side of it. So: If my lan is 192.168.0.x and the phone gives me 192.168.100.x then it would simply be me changing all my IP numbers to that range - right? That is looking like the easiest solution.

Thanks guys. Yeah, I didn't explain it too clearly it seems. That is because that is not my usual area of work and it is still all "Greek" to me. Ok, I shall go back and read the posts again, but as good as the replies are, they are not "specific" enough to really help me. Ok, the setup: I have about 5 machines all on my LAN. THERE IS NO OUTSIDE ACCESS. I didn't say my ADSL LAN. It is just a LAN. LOCAL being the important word here. All the machines have their FIXED IP numbers. One machine gets teathered to the internet via its 3G. This is on a USB port. I asked else where: My internet is done from a USB port. I want to share that connection to my "LAN". I can't remember what it is called, but could someone help me set it up? And this is what I got: its generally called bridging. So reading the replies here, I would say that is not exactly the right thing for me to do. I've heard of ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) as well, but that is just as confusing/unknown to me as bridging, and when the reply came back saying it is "bridging" I went with that. So, what's the problem I am having? Well, my LAN works. When I connect/teather my phone to the/a computer (usually the same one) the computer's IP address changes. WAY WAY changes. I don't understand why when I think about it. The phone connects to the net. Not the computer. Outside the phone has an IP address it gets from the "3G" system. Back towards the computer it doesn't really matter what IP it has. So, if I can tell the phone to be a particular IP address - within the range of my LAN - all would be good. But I don't know which is the easier path now. Do I go with this ICS, NAT stuff, or can I simply tell the phone to use a certain IP address towards the computer? (HTC Desire OS 2.1 - can't upgrade to 2.2 for some weird reason. HTC's site says the IME is not accepted. That's another story. Just so you don't give me instructions which are only in 2.2 though.) All this talk about wireless modems/routers, etc. Yeah, nice, but that isn't where the "internet" connects to my LAN. It is through the phone and the computer into which is it plugged. Now, something else (added via edit) DNS.... When I go into my "network settings" and click on the TCP/IP and then properties I get the screen where I can set the IP as either fixed or from a server. Then it has a "Default DNS" (or something). DNS, yeah, Domain Name Server. I have fixed IP addresses and the LAN works. WHY/HOW this works I don't know. But I have set it (in all machines) to this one computer. Is this right or wrong? I don't think I can leave it blank.

When I plug my phone into the PC and use it to connect to the net is where I am having troubles. Yes, I can get all that part of it working. But here is the "problem": My PC has a FIXED IP address. As does my LAN. I want to "Bridge" the internet connection from the USB port to the ethernet port. Problem is that when the phone/PC connects to the internet, my IP number is changed. WAY WAY WAY different. So, I can see the internet, and all that good stuff, but I can't see any of the machines on my LAN. "BRIDGING" the two points is fairly easy. I open "Network connections" and highlight the two icons. RMB and select "BRIDGE". O/S: XP SP2. But I want a way that the ETHERNET side of the system keeps the original IP number. The phone to PC can have anything it wants.... So long as the "BRIDGE" only does that, and doesn't change the IP of the PC at the ethernet side of things. Anyone?

I heard - but it is probably wrong - that it was out of fuel. Someone will be a lot of trouble it this is true.

Strange no one else has seen this: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/pilot-makes-emergency-landing-on-eighth-hole-of-liverpool-golf-course/story-e6freuy9-1226044117089

Ok, I'm going to bite again. As much as KISS is a good idea, it is not always a good thing. When you are LEARNING, it is better to have ALL the information you need. It is not a good place to be: Flying a plane and trying to re-calculate your flight. You need to sit down and PLAN THE FLIGHT before you go. Although weather is not fixed, it gives you a starting point and you can work from that. Nowhere in that list is the weather report and flight plan listed. Though maybe implicit, they ARE needed. I think people are forgetting that we aren't just suddenly able to do this sort of thing. There are things which have to happen to us for us to learn. Taking a short cut will not be a good thing.

Ok, what I found: V AUSTRALIA has chartered a jumbo jet to fly today�s service between Brisbane and the US while it works out how long one of its Boeing 777s involved in a rejected take-off last night will remain grounded in Los Angeles. Flight VA2 was doing less than 130km/h in the early stages of its take-off roll when pilots aborted the lift-off because of problems with the performance of the left engine.