Bob, Forgot to add in my earlier reply! Fran and I took up gardening, as a hobby, after we retired from employment away from home... I built numerous flower garden beds and a shade house for our potted plants ....It`s show time up here so we entered some of our potted plants and cut flowers`...At the Innisfail show, we got 13 first and 10 second prizes` plus Grand Champion potted plant and cut Flower...At the Cairns show, which is on at the moment, we got Grand Champion potted plant and Grand Champion cut flower, plus, roughly the same number of first and second prizes: At the moment I`m not sure of the exact number, I`ll know tomorrow when I pick up the plants............I make up all the garden and potting mix and I`m about to go out to make another mix.
You can keep your 8C.., but then, you can grow what we can`t grow up here...Oh...Fran and I only started showing our plants, last year.
Franco.