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....flatly denied the story and claimed that NewZealand Whitebait only ate the cleanest food after it had been naturally cleansed by Lake Taupa bacteria. However a Camera Team from "David Turbine's World" (c) showed the whitebait guzzling S ................

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The guy in this video also has the wind shear in a very convenient position allowing him to convert to a landing but where the wind shear starts is random and I’d say your instructor took advantage to teach instant reaction and flying the aircraft out of trouble.

........UBob would have to pay to keep the rivers clean to protect the native whitebait. This reduced UBob's profit to a small allowance per year. Turbo flooded the NZ whitebait market with cheaper whitebait from the Mekong Delta, so Cappy's lease on all the rivers was burning him, and bull hired a bunch of ........

.......become the property of UBob. Cappy, who had a nose for corruption more sensitive than a Bollodhound immediately smelled a rat. Well he didn't smell a rat, but he knew that soundrel mut have picked up in the pre-meetings of the NES Committee that there ws going to be a takeover of the NZ rivers. He ...........

.be good for spraying the quarter-acre paddocks of the land of the Long Weekend, although the screaming sound may eventually drive the Kaua Kaua birds extinct, and it has been said that when the last Kaua Kaua leaves the mountains ..........

........you could strap a couple of sheep on the wings and carry them over the ridges to better pastures. It took a but of time with a mob of 3,000, but that was the way things were done in NZ. It had a Merlin engine that Turbo had picked up from .......... It's the next beach South of Mermaid Beach

Just found the perfect example of windshear on a light aircraft. One of my CFIs was killed by windshear. I've experienced it twice, on late final around 50 to 100 feet above ground level. The first time, I didn't react, just sat there and the Instructor slammed the throttle wide open so we missed going into scrub. The second time, the CFI yelled "FULL TROTTLE" but I'd reached the end of the throttle sector and we went up like a lift. You dont need to know the theory of it; when you fall it's just WOT and THEN fly it. I timed this one at about 3 seconds from the point where he would notice the drop to touch down In my cases I hadn't reached the runway; I counted 1.5 seconds from the time he would notice the drop to the time WOT would have arrested the drop and he could climb out. You can put your stop watches on it and feel how much time you have to react. We've talked in the past about building some actions, like EFATO initial response into muscle memory, where the average person starts to move in about 50/100 of a second, people with full currency and active about 20 to 30/100, and some down to 15/100. If it's not a built in response; if something happens out of the blue, the reaction time will be around 2 to 5 seconds or even longer if you are disbelieving of what's happening. This is a good one to concrete in your head. Remember, I had made countles approaches and landings, but the first time, I would have started to respond after I hit the ground. Windshear

Skua branch sharpened at one end by rotating it between 3 rocks known as a Taupa Crush. The Taupa Crush is related to the Taupa Jaws where the heads of enemy warriors are rotated in this five-stone device and when the warrior has finally been pulled out of the Taupa Crush he has the flat ears and flattened nose and tattoos of beautiful symmetrical design from the Hauraki oyster juices poured int the design. This makes the warriors suitable for living with the conquering tribe and they are then ........

No; I was just trying to give you some help.

This is a Recreational Aviation site.

...before they made the trips to New Zealand were the most interesting, because the New Zealand Greens were mostly loggers who wanted all the logging profits for themselves and also were not tolerant of any moves to improve Diversity. In fact if you waved a rainbow lolipop at the wrong moment you'd be lifted up by the collar and nailed to one of the giant kaui kaui tree trunks, and you weren't going to get a p break. So the Tasmanians were very careful with their wordings and by the time the 1870s steam train climbed up the mountains for the ......... .....ones silly enough to still be wearning scarves out the door and down 2,000 feet of scree, the remnants had almost perfected the New Zealand language, or at least understood it. As the train rolled in to the mountain train siding..................

That's a Short Field Landing in the PPL syllabus, for when whatever you've chosen doesn't have the rolling distance you want.

So another post, another rude No Quote. I'll assume you were aiming your spleen at me. I'm not backward in being critical of RAA when it warrants it, but they don't have an "attitude" to LL. That's an existiong regulation. If you want to change it best read their Constitution to see what the process is to change regulations, and if you can get agreement and someone to put the motion up, why not do something.

1. It's good manners to use the Quote link, just like I've done here. It's only a single click, then we know what you are referring to. 2. Just so you know LL regulation is not up for debate; just a few people clarifying it. You might be the messenger but that's all the more reason to refer to the Recreational Aviation Australia Rules and quote them.

Low level flying is clearly defined under Recreational Aviation Australia Ltd regulations; very clearly defined. I realise you were talking about the Dreamtime in the past where, if something went wrong for the student practising what he was taught, CASA picked up the tab, and if necessary smacked the instructor on the knuckles. We are no longer in that era.

I think it's an anomally in RA, perhaps a mistaken carry over from the time they were only allowed to fly in paddocks at less than 300 feet. If you want to check stock etc, you can easily do it at 500 feet. If you didn't charge the student for it, you still introduce risk that the student will go out the next day, mimic what he was shown and suddenly find himself face to face with a row of tall pine trees because he was focussed on the ground.

Yes, correct, albeit its gliders that do Outlandings because while they are not going to get off again if they screw up, they can come in much higher and use the airbrake to quickly change the descent angle once they are sure of the landing zone, and they can glide at a much shallower angle, whereas a recreational aircraft by comparison has a lot more drag, and if you are too conservative you overshoot and don't have an air brake. When the engine fails in a powered aircraft it's called a Forced Landing to change your mindset to full alert. Around 15 years ago there were a lot of forced landing fatals due to RA pilots either pulling back on the stick thinking that would keep the aircraft flying or simply crashing in from a thousand feet to ground which was fine for forced landings. They also happen at the most inconvenient times. The terminology Low Level is different to Forced Landing. In Forced Landing you can do anything necessary to save yourself. In Low level you are going to deliberately fly the aircraft under 500' (which is illegal without a Rating and reason for the rating), so you are going to be taught about how you must turn, flying under wires, and a lot of other skills you aren't taught in Forced Landings. The risk is also much higher.

Well between Rodger's figures and mine we have 3 to 17 hours average; take yoour pick. We all know about the academic who drowned in a creek of average depth 150 mm, so I wouldnt get hung up on that. There will be some people who haven't flown for 10 years while they were building their dream. There's nothing wrong with talking about low level training, upset training, training under the hood. But you have to stay connected with cost for the pilot vs risk. If Pilots can't afford to fly you don't have a risk problem. Similarly if you were to argue that the RA Instructors needed a new complex training programme, If instructors can't pay the cost then you won't have instructors. That still leaves Parachuting, where a lot of hours are racked up, Balloons, Warbirds and perthaps Powered Parachutes and Paragliders, but let's say its between 3 and 17, it's still averaging which I agree doesn't tell you much.

I only posted the complete list of SAOs (Self Administering Organisations) a couple of days ago, so people would understand the CURRENT structure of Aviation in Australia today. Here is the lst of Sport Aviation Self-Administering Organisations again: Australian Parachute Federation Australian Sport Rotorcraft Association Australian Warbird Association Ltd Gliding Federation of Australia Recreational Aviation Australia Ltd Sports Aviation Federation of Australia (Note: SAAA are not in the Self Administering Organisation group)

....deduced that Tasmanians would be extinct within 6.32 years. In a post-thesis survey, 63.98% thought that would be a good idea, 35.02% asked whether this would affect gambling, and the other 1% wanted to save the emus. As bull has discovered, Tasmanians are the most genuine people of all States; Turbo has attended some of those meetings, albeit out on the lawn. When Bob was king of Tasmania he was more popular than Jesus, but they had a signing woman outside the door who kept us up to date with the motions, votes, reports and fights, which was good if you could sign. Most of the Lawn People as they became known would drift off to .................

Well I agree with you about mean averages, but RA is only a small part of SAOs, so you'd have to deduct the hours from: Parachuting Sports Rotorcraft Balloons Powered Parachutes Para Gliders Warbirds Gliding

I haven't seen an annual figure average for a PPL, but in both RA and GA cost is the limiting factor. For PPL, hire rates at Royal Victorian Aero Club are currently (per hour): C152 $245.00 C172N $280.00 C172SP $290.00 PA28 Warrior $285.00 PA28 Archer $295.00 PA28 Arrow $345.00 One of the best plans I've seen for staying current at the bare minimum annual cost, was a guy who did 30 minutes per week. He didn't fly on bad weather days and he took holidays. So on current costs for a C152 that would be: 40 weeks x 0.5 hrs = 20 hrs/yr x $245.00 = $4,900.00/year That was in one of the busiest circuits in the country, so he was always on his toes and up with his pre-flight, pre-takeoff, circuits, downwind checks, landings etc. RA rates for RPC Jabiru J170 $110.00, $174.00, $220.00 Jabiru J230 $207.00

I think I read a while back the average annual hours of RA pilots is 3 hours. Would it be wise to teach low level flying under those conditions? Since we switched to Visibility 5 km (5000 m) ahead, I think the fatality rate has dropped significantly. In GA we don't seem to get that batch of people killed around May, and given all those people were trained for hours under the hood, I would suggest the 5 km visibility is the more significant life saver of the two. There's also the factor that in RA there is very little cross country flying, and in particular flights from Victoria to Queensland or vice versa where you need to manage the flight to suit two or three weather changes.

I wasn't looking for any point, I was correcting an error. The Australian Warbird Association Ltd, under CASR Part 149, is part of the Self Administering Organisations.