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ASIC may have spread to our RPT airports but it was not based on the scenarios you paint or the fantasies of some posters who have no idea what it is all about. I don't have a problem with ASIC and a recent poster pointed out the obvious; that the cost was reasonable and it took up a minimum of time to process. That should be the end of it. My information came directly from a State Minister for Police who told me how many people had been caught, sent to trial, convicted and were safely in a secure prison and had led to protective operations and measures his government was taking. They later shut down an ISIS training centre in the last suburb you would expect to find ISIS influence. With respect to RPT aircraft; the aircraft in question were private (GA in Australia) aircraft; the type you might have found at Berwick airfield, able to be started and flown away by anyone. It should be obvious that governments can't provide specific details day by day of their reasons, the evidence they have collected or their strategies. It should be obvious, but here we are.

For the others, what I said before still stands.

You've made your assumptions and position clear over and over again. That doesn't mean it's correct or that ASIC is an issue for others.

Good advice; simple, straightforward; anyone can do the research to find out the why's.

There's a long and informative thread about this on the site.

....the miners had all changed to Mini Skirts; a few years late but so was Broken Hill and when they competed in the Hill Aerobatics championships ...................................

It does; but the job gets done and just a few know.

I assume you meant driver. Tonight they referred to communications; however, very few of them in both State and Commonwealth realised that a Declaration of Emergency in any form - fire, health etc automatically triggers a Commander to be appointed to make decisions OVER the elected official, so it's just a beat up for the election.

I didn't think any Commos were standing.

.......that pervert Cappy hasn't snatched them and is even now slinking down the street looking for ........................

Please read my post more carefully; this was just a side discussion at the most.

Sometimes you would be better off sitting back and reading exactly wah people say rather than going off at an unrelated tangent and abusing people. The figures ARE for HELICOPTERS so ARE a "separate rate for chppers (sic). The post is about non fatal crashed at Moorabbing, so "There's been plenty of horrific Heli crashes lately is about as relevant as who won the last rugby match in Georgetown. I'll leave you're lecture to the investigators you're targetting.

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That's correct, so it will be interesting to see what ATSB have to say. Just looking at the statistics for Moorabbin, a helicopter down on the Moorabbin field would be 1 per 2.9 million movements You can adjust the 1 to more if you can remember more.

.....open admiration and hope. She ..................

"WHAT are YOU doing here?" It was Constable Doubtfire and he knew he'd be standing before a Magistrate Monday morning trying to explain .....

..........what's wrong with promoting the "Waving Cat" brand of smallgoods? Bluey made a derogatory remark about the quality of Turbo's meats, and Turbo grabbed him tighter and hissed again. "What are you, a XXXXXXX snake?" yelled Bluey who was still on W time and had never been out of Esperance. "If I ....."

I don't doubt its a mystery; maybe one day you'll make and original and positive quote.

No you don't, you need the long winded version like I said. These days you have to have key responsible people managing the duty of care for each different activity; no one tells you what to do but you get severely bitten on the bum if you are just winging it and something goes wrong.

I had 35 Clubs and Associations in Victoria to administer in a State Association and we then had 8 Associations in the National Federation. It worked very well because, for example you could have a 95.10 Club or Association with like-minded people helping each other while, if they wanted, travelling to Interstate swap meets, competitions,etc - anything they wanted to do while the State Body interfaced with Insurance and administation.

The legal issues and claims as it says in the heading.

election. Over the last day or so China Airlines has been disgorging thousands of "typical Australians" ready, in any city, and particularly out in our country areas, to wave flags and make speeches in every electorate (88%) where there was now a Jack Chee standing for election. The problem started when they began launching their campaigns, and saying .......

.........known for its many parties. You'd be wanting to know whether they were going to locate the new Sydney Airport over the top of your Drifter Field airstrip, and someone would pick up the phone and you'd hear Har, Har HAR!!!!!! and the clinking of glasses as they listened to the end of a schoolyard joke. Then you'd get a helpful "Even WE don't know!!!!!!........you'd be better talking to Albo!" And now here we are years later, with our Albo, even more famous than Macron who has just set the Tariff standard for the world in one night, except for the spiteful slash at Chairman Xi with the 125% whack in the guts. Both Cappy and Turbo raced over to placate Chairman Xi, Cappy even bowing before him (which would never have happened in the goldrush), and Turbo stayed behind to console Xi and sign off a contract for the supply of toothpaste to every person in China in a Genuine cat skin capsule for 1 cent each, the price varying by the CPI, tariff-free, hence this late post. He left Xi showing praise on his old friend Turbo and promising........

You've demonstrated the fundamental difference. Many Limited companies now have CRM (Customer Relationship Management) departments that promote the product, lend a sympatheic ear when something's going wrong, survey the clients (why didn't you renew membership etc) the CRM department then records the number of complaints etc and passes them on to the Sales department, Service department, Dealer etc in the form of a righteous admonition to do better in the future, and receive asnwers from the experienced field people in return. The RAA Ltd Company as a Self Administrating Body also has the duty of care/responsibility to handle every aspect of the aircraft class they manage. The Incorporated Body has the same duty of care/responsibility butgets some Government protection for its officers who, by its definition are elected in every State and Territory. Under self management you can administer however you want to achieve the end result. You can appoint Stewards or Field Managers who arew close to the airctaft locations and can inspect them on a regular basis, you can appoint flying Stewards to manage skills and behaviour, you can have a risk management Committee and you can have a Promotional Manager or Committee. You can have a Specifications Committee to decide what new types of aircraft to admit and to phase out types no longer needed. You can have regional meetings, State meetings or Federal meetings and so on.

RAA Ltd is just there to manage and take a fee for it, pretty much the same as an insurance company. There are plenty around these days who don't even advertise their phone number. It backfires because they never get the feedback that comes in to an Association so they lose the feel and the direction and service quality isn't what's wanted.