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I wouldn't rule out this being the start of the GA pushback to the RAA moves. Right from the point where RAA Ltd was started a lot of the statements didn't make sense, but people were talking into the "we've outgrown the cricket club association model." Now the members are trapped outside the Limited Company model and can't get inside and move it. The protective responses to the ABC video and stories should have happened already pointing out that of the 27 fatalities broadcast by the ABC in the name of "hobby aircraft", just 6 apply to Recreational Aircraft.

Cappy also was a keen boat racer; this was the name of his Jaguar powered hydroplane.

It seems Keith Link is a Councillor from Cohuna in Victoria Cohuna Airport was taken over by the Cohuna Lions Club from Coliban Water in 2020. Keith Link is quoted as saying its important for the town to have its air ambulance.

...........precise and exhaustive facts which were always unrebutable. It was Turbo who pioneered the Pom-to-Europe driver's 18 hour days with at least one meal of fish and chips per day. He was also at the front of the blockade of what is now known as P!ssers Hill in Dover which gained PomDrivers not less than one restroom visit per day, and got them into those swaying Volvos with the Mack roof horns which ....... Turbo thanks Cappy fpr his sympathetic mention of Turbo's troubled childhood. He still has an addiction for Minties which he is always trying to beat.

Good to see some people jumping in to defend RA. Angus Mitchell, listed by the ASBC as an indonesian Linguist, was concerned about these hobby planes flying low and slow which is dangerous. I flew some but was faster by several percent above stall to GA, amd these climbed faster and there are plenty of people on here who make a habit of flying at higher altitudes than I did, so it would be interesting to find out where Angus got this low and slow story.

Just recapping the figures presented in the written version of this: Total: 27 deaths for 12 months of which just 6 were RA> Yet a person has an engine failure in a GA aircraft, follows procedure and lands it and somehow this outcome has him saying he looks at some of these planes and shakes his head.....they worry him......he wants tightening of minimum standards for pilots and aircraft. 16 people were killed in GA aircraft, 6 in RA - where should the head shaking be aimed?, what should he be worried about?, where's the ATSB investigation of his event? The video goes on with "one of the concerns is different rules and standards for hobby aircraft and pilots." Of course the rules and standards in RA are different to GA. The Rules and standards in GA are also different to RPT. There's certainly something going on here that's not making a lot of sense.

Just came across this ABC video: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/string-of-fatal-recreational-plane-crashes-in-victoria-raises-questions/vi-AA1wVS6X?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=8694473924104e60bc0c310e0222985a&ei=51

and helping us all to understand the English Language that much better. Not many people know that Turbo was English-handicapped in his early school years and his teacher would give him extra assignments to go out and find examples of words. Commer was one of them and he rode his bike to the highway and counted 130 Commer semi trailers going past over a 17 hour stint. The local cop eventually found him signing off a driver's log book and.......... WQ10292.wav

I just threw some broad figures up in the air so see if there was a distinction between the two groups going forward based on the cost of flying new or near new aircraft (hiring). The current situation is like two chooks with their heads chopped off; they are going in all directions. In GA there's one stream going into instructing then getting endorsements on bigger and faster aircraft, then getting into charter etc then getting on the bottom rung for RPT. There's another hiring the aircraft they learnt on to do short distance cross-country, then as they can afford it, stepping up into touring aircraft with more radio equipment, retracts, C/S props, higher speeds for the Melbourne - Coober Pedy, Ayers Rock, Darwin, Nhullumbuy, Whitsundays and back. 40 - 60 years ago they could hire new or near-new aircrtaft to do this; some of them are now hiring 60 year old airctaft. The question with that group is how to get back to a new or near new touring aircraft today. And there's the question of where your students learning on Slings and Foxbats fit in. Are they aspiring to what I've just described or are they forming a group similar to the top end of RA of limited cross country - maybe 2 or 3 hours max? Then there are the levels of RA flying as some people have mentioned - quite a few levels which operate within their own fraternities.

So does NTSB in the US - Aviation, Railroad, Highway, Marine, Pipeline, Hazardous Materials. Stops the dog whistling of six heads of departments. Victoria recently added Planning to Transport so theoretically roughly 3000 people to whittle down.

The video was contiguous, Jetskis around it 1.5 km SDth Nambucca Heads 4 pm "ATSB investigating", 1 body retrieved, another report stating "Microlight" so some clarity needed.

Plenty of Australians fly that category, it's not called Part 103 in Australia. Don't forget there are 9-11,000 members in RAA doing their own thing in their own groups.

Rough figures; the cost of a new GA trainer/cross country is $500,000 to $1.2 mil. RA new $50,000 t0 $250,000 We need the different standard if the average person is to be able to afford to fly or hire relatively new AC. RA should be viewed as other sporting activities are; the State police investigate the accident and provide the evidence to the State Coroner. For non fatal accidents, RA people have to get themselves into gear and catch up with other hi risk sports which self-administer.

We've been on these treasure hunts before. The information keeps changing.

VH Registration visible in footage (Daily Mail Australia).

.......embarrassment for NASA, who these days were mucking around up a volcano taking CO2 levels from the flames and telling everyone the world was doomed, trying to get people to eat beetles instead of steak, and rolling out old Buzz Aldrin movies for the kids. With the release of the new Chinese Stealth fighter, Don T wasn't waiting to be inaugurated but had ordered NASA to build a better one and make it Zero Emission, Donny liking the idea of him being the one to save the environment. The above photo, purported to be an old Russian Space Shuttle is actually the newest US Stealth fighter carrying so much electronics that it needed to be build like a truck and was harder to service than a Hyundai Tucson which is saying something. It's shown here with the anti-radar antenna that NASA feels is goning to be a winner and AOK Ever-mindful of the environment and excessive CO2, NES readers will note the dust on the aircraft showing that no CO2 has been expended on sh!t like cleaning. You can see I'm Bob in the red shirt bombing this training photo. When you upset NASA ................. [Congratulations to bull for introducing the triple comma into the English language]

Rubbish indeed; the Jabiru is a 4 stroke engine. We are talking about two strokes; there's a huge difference in the engineering, performance and maintenance. I've managed to sieze a two stroke engine where the specification was 16:1 and I used 40:1; I learnt my lesson.

40-1 is not fine if the manufacture requires a different mix. Good example of why 2 stroke requires specialised training.

.........all jumped up and did a Haka, poking out their tongues and rolling their eyes, pathetic really, but it was authentic, they'd taken off their shoes and loosened their ties. What they didn't know was this was bindii country and immediately there were howls of pain. From a distance the Australians didn't know this so they started doing the Ernie Dingo "Welcome to Country" where people stamp their feet and sniff smoke from the leaves dropped on a fire. The Aussies only gave the ceremony passing seriousness and that's what saved them. The Aussies stepped forward in time to Gough Whitlam's Anthem, being careful to get the word "girt" correct. Thge New Zealanders had just exhausted all the bindii on their stamping ground when they were pushed back on to a new patch, and with loud howls they tried to out flank the Aussies, who by now had accidently set fire to the whole battleground. It was NZer I'm Bob who ........

GA training for a PA28 140 or Warrior where the engine fails on take off is usually FUEL (tap change) > MIXTURE RICH > SWITCHES L>R > aim between two houses or factories. It's forced landings where, after the above preliminary it's TRIM for 75 kts followed by the forced landing checklist. It's the trim action which gets the aircraft on an optimum descent path with the engine off.

....selected WOT in the trike, which didn't make a lot of difference from idle. He swung the bar from left to right left to right left to right to make it a harder shot for CT, but that's what bunnies did, so CT aimed where the point of the next oscillation would be and broke off the Texan's empennage. It was clear this wasn't Andy because Andy would just have said "What was that?" and continued on flying. Andy had built the fencing for his horse from various materials belonging to the farms he flew over and caught on his undercarriage. The mysterious Texan now fled with the Australians and New Zealanders on his tail in a joint attack. There was a slight upset when a New Zealander hit an Australian by mistake but they all continued on after the American with the "I Like Trumpe" sticker on his aircraft. Then they started running out of fuel; ...........

Sorry no credibility.

Good on you, it depends on who gave them that information and what the agenda was. All RA owners should be on red alert; when the pilots, students, instructors, and flying facilities and service industry can produce a result like this they deserve to be congratulated.

From the map I get the following: Paragliders (SAFA) 3 Gliders (GFA) 2 Helicopters (GA) 5 Crop Spray (GA) 3 GA 8 (Total GA 16) RA (RAA) 6 If that's Jan - Dec 2024 then that looks to me to be a good year for RA, not a bad year. If people are talking publicly about RA then lumping in all the other statistics is misleading to say the least.

Yes, RA accidents with just a few exceptions are investigated by Police with technical assistance of RAA and the evidence provided to the State Coroner.