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That's the reality most people face, so it makes sense to ensure no ethanol gets in the tank in the forst place. If you remove the cause of the prblem you don't have to fix the problem. Think of the people trying to upend a trike or motor glider. As some others have said, if draining the tank is not realistic and the aromatics evaporate and the engine won't fire, add a small amount of new fuel and it will catalise the old.

........tear strips off Cappy's ample hide. It was a WA ambush, and Turbo recalled the dinner he had in Port Augusta with a Walien telling him about Bungarra attacks and how a man fell asleep out in the desert and work up without arms and legs, or the ..............

An interesting exception to that is Kyoto, Japan with a population of 1.5 million vs 5 million for Melbourne. Kyoto has about three levels of city trains in a combination of ground level and underground linking to trams and buses. On top of that is has train lines to adjoining cities. On top of that around 28 Shinkansen leave Kyoto each morning, each with 2000 commuters (approx 56,000) for Tokyo, and bring them back each evening. Within Kyoto you don't really need a car.

Ours are all CO2 emitting in the Latrobe Valley.

What does this relate to?

......done? what have I done", but this was a question Cappy was going to have to answer for himself. There were the ........

.....the shape as clearly a man; the mirage had got his heartbeat up for the last 30 minutes. His pet Koala was called Anthony. Anthony gave a low grunt now signifying that this man would do them no harm. Anthony had come from Canberra where weekend shooters were always out trying to pot the bears which had learnt to communicate to avoid being shot. For example if Turbo were to approach Anthony he would give a series of short grunts signifying "This man is like Jesus and he'll likely be giving us buckets of the sweetest leaves; that's what Turbo's like" If CT walked in there'd be a high pitched scream, code for "HE'S GOT A GUN!" If OT arrived there'd be a low crooning and one of the bears would offer him a leaf (not that he would eat a gum leaf, but you never know), but when Cappy showed up they would all run and ...........

No I didn't miss the point; of course I ensured the tap was working; of course I ran the engine dry as you would do in say a two stroke lawn mower, but as others have posted that's not enough when ethanol or methanol are present. In racing, where the fuel is methanol the current practice at the end of the day's racing is to turn the fuel tap off, run to dry carb, connect a can of about half a litre of petrol to the carb and run the engine until that's gone through. I've also followed the practice of taking all the carbies off after racing, shaking the last drips of fuel out and submerging them in a tray of [ethanol-free] petrol until the next race. With ethanol; if you don't want to be trying to clean out ethanol powder or solids blocking galleries which you can't get to with probes, compressed air or boiling the whole carb for a couple of hours, you don't use any petrol with methanol in it. Skippy talks about Rotax and ethanol tolerant engines and it's true that some carbs are manufactured by CNC drilling galleries and having screw plugs each end so you can open these and run a twist drill through the galleries with your fingers and ream out the solids, so not have any further issues; Rotax my have other solutions. However, this is not a Rotax site and there will be thousands of Ultralites around Australia with carburettors of all descriptions which have been designed for cost and can't be cleaned out. In most cases new carbies are available; in others there are no new replacements available and no used ones in wreckers so you have to junk the engine. With Ethanol the rule is pretty simple; if you don't like trying to clean out erhanol problems from the

.....lead shavings. and started the five day walk back to the nearest civilisation which was old Ed Sherry 600 km from Great Boulder. Ed sat on his verandah every day with his 12 gauge shotgun; he didn't like visitiors and he watched as a small speck appeared on the horizon; his foot itched ............

"........having a look for the two hills and a saddle, a days ride north of the Brindle Dingo track" "How's the search going" asked Andriy. "I'm searching along the track to a methodical plan; should be finished when I'm 132" replied the Russian. "You're a Russian!?" asked Andriy. "Yes, what's wrong with that?" replied the Russian, and Andriy replied with his Glock. He looked at the map of the vast search area and realised he'd have to call Airborne Gold Search, Inc. and .............

Well in that case IIRC when you said you'd never had any failures in your engines, it was seriously misleading to people who might be tempted to buy cheaper fuel, and it undermines the posters who have told people about engine failures in various parts of the system, PARTICULARALY carburtettors or have told people the specific fuels to avoid and the specific preventative measures to take. Of COURSE if you don't use any ethanol you won't have any ethanol problems. As I've mentioned in previous posts, just turning off the fuel tap as Facthunter advised is not going to avoid the problem because there's still ethanol in the float bowl and evaporating in the galleries leaving its white powder. After a succession of starts there's enough powder to solidify and stop the engine - hence forced landing. Where the carburettor has blind galleries, it can be necessary to throw it away, and in quite a few older small engines there's no replacement with the exact same bore, exact same mount, exact same throttle cable location, exact same fuel tank moulded around the engine. In these cases, by using fuel containing ethanol, your only action is to throw the implement away whether a chain saw, rotary hoe etc.

........outback where they met Morton, who said in that broad Western Desert accent "Hi Bros, What's Up!" The leader said, in Ukrainian, "We are looking for skins!" Morton turned white and quietly said "They THAT way!, pointing with his beard. He thought they were like the Kal cops - after HIS skin. They thought a local had just put them onto a multi million dollar source of income. Strange how two people listening to the same words can conclude opposite meanings. The Leader, Captain Andriy ordered Captain Aleksander; "March" Captain Aleksander ordered Sergeant Vlodomir; "March" Sergeant Vlodomir ordered Corporal Oleksiy; "March" and the convoy moved off into the desert at a fast pace and they soon came under the scrutiny of the old Afghan camel driver .............

Don't get sucked in by the trolls Space.

I didn't give my definition for phases of the moon either because neither are involved. The saddest thing about this thread is that the poor person trying to sell an aircraft which may well have 30 years of structural integrity if he/she follows qualified knowledge, may have a lot more trouble getting a buyer, and from the spinoff crap, sooner or later someone who followed ignorant advice is possibly going to have an engine failure and perhaps a fatal landing.

Where did this come from Skippy? ETHANOL DOES NOT DAMAGE THE ENGINE??????

Here are two explanations of Bernoulli's principle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP6oqIic4lo The bag doesn't have any way of sucking the air in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=724noDp_cz8

There's no sucking.

characters who have teeth that can bite clean through a finger as Turbo can attest when he disturbed one that he thought was sleeping. It was Turbo who pointed out that handling the little creatures was going to be the Achilles heel.. and they sucked blood out of you when you slept. The race was on to find an easier way to skin a Drifter, and .......

Yes, about 1/3. The other 2/3 comes from downward deflection of the wing. For the 1/3 to kick in the fllow over the top surface has to be laminar, hence it doesn't suck fabric off the ribs as we found out if we used dope on the fabric of model aircraft. With enough power to weight ratio you can fly an aircraft with just deflection. Most control line and RC aircraft are in this catergory. As someone mentioned, supersonic forces are very different requiring a different form of wing. A lot more complicated.

....surprisingly better takeoffs and climbs until the last fox couldn't keep his teeth shut and fell off. There was a general discussion in AUF and some people said ........

Surely they could handle the simple difference between avgas (Aviation Gasoline) and Petrol? These are people CASA calls Pilots in Command. In the US they can buy Avgas, Mogas and Gasoline in several levels. Mogas is a specific fuel for US vehicles. We don't import it or sell it. Each time we get the Australian fuel sorted out to optimise Australian aircraft someone seems to come along with a red herring.

....new best seller "Beyond the Fence; still keeping rabbits out" with a foreword by CT from Darraweit Guim and a full length photo of OT dressed in a Davey Crocket style rabbit suit. For the diehard AUFs there's a chapter on shooting rabbits from Drifters, a chapter on skinning a drifter with sewn and bonded rabbit skins - the right way and the wrong way. Ot touches on the very delicate .......

Yes I am sure; there was a major debate on this site and with the board members (committee) of RAA Inc. when members got to have these debates. There should be around 50 pages of the pros and cons on this site, but I just searched for "Magazine" and "Sport Pilot" and found nothing. Magazine or No Magazine The thing that binds any Association together is its group communication, gossip, hints, calls to action, notification of a success or failure requiring action. It needs to be an edited flow of information to avoid the catfights and cliques that occur in every big group. The RAA was one of the best, and promoted huge successes like Natfly, flyaways, group build meetings, etc. catering for all the issues ultralight flyers wanted to know. It announced news relating to changes of rules, interpretation of rules and it had a running report on accidents so it was possible to use these to produce spreadsheets of trends. Digitisation in the form of instant minute by minute news took over from Monthly or Weekly, or Daily news media. The scale of efficiency of mechanical printing presses, type setting, collating etc dropped down massively to the point where tens of thousands of people, starting with typesetters moved out of the industry and the cost to produce a professional magazine went up to unaffordable levels. I'd moved into digital with club and association magazines in the 1980s, and found it much more flexible because you could talk to members even on the morning of an event. RAA was no exception to this massive increase in cost to produce magazines the old way - in printing presses, so a debate was started about whether RAA should cut the printed magazines which had become a serious percentage of Member fees. I recommended digital magazines because the only significant cost was limited to Journalists and most clubs/associations used their own people. The magazine could be collated, then with one press of the send button sent out to thousands of members at almost zero cost. There was along debate on this site and within RAA groups around the Country and the group which wanted to stay with a printed magazine regardless of costs won the battle and RAA retained it and continued to charge members the significant cost for its production. Quality of content The Members of RAA voted to shut down RAA Inc and have a limited company operate recreational flying. I would argue that wasn't a democratic vote, and wasn't in the interests of a group who not only flew aircraft but builts them and needed flexible rules which were able to be changed regularly. However the majority vote was to have a central RAA Ltd company running everything. You're free to squeal about content, but you're in the same boat as people who aren't happy with the latest Land Cruiser, except that you can't go and buy somewhere else.

Could be, regularly happens.

Sport Pilot was/is an SAAA name. I'm stunned that they just gave it up.