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My 182 has a seat belt 'snatch" fitted underneath it, IAW some mod required years ago. Its cant roll back very fast at all or the belt (inertia reel type deal) grabs it. I would have thought they all had this mod?

Good points KG. One of the big problems I see, is the regulation and legislation is not directly proportional to the risk's or to actual safety incidence. let me point out 2 recent safety cases. 1. Robinson helicopters fuel tank issues. Involved multiple deaths around Australia and the world. The issues were known by CASA and the manufacturer. A soft " do as you see fit" modification was 'encouraged' but not made mandatory, until the horrible fiery deaths racked up to an unacceptable level. Once pushed hard, CASA finally made the changes mandatory. 2. Jabiru engine failures. Reliability of the engines was questionable for a variety of reasons, and without consult with industry, a heavy handed, over the top approach from CASA followed. With extreme reluctance to furnish the industry with any detail. yes, of course there were issues, but at the time no deaths were directly attributable to the design' Flaws". So on one hand we had multiple people, burned alive due to a KNOWN and DOCUMENTED problem with design. The regulator did nothing meaningful until the chared bodies piled up. On the other hand, we had no fatality's, very few injuries, all be it a design issues that was known to cause engine problems. The mind boggles when one tries to imagine both cases being handled by the same regulator. The legislation needs to be proportionate to the ACTUAL safety case it attempts to control.

Casa have a major legislative overhaul in place already, and have had for some time. There's even a table somewhere which has the particular Reg changes etc on a timeline projecting forward over the next few years. IMHO the issues we face today are not based on legislation, but rather a cultural "illness" within the dept that starts at the front desk and works its way all the way to the top. The regulator is feared, despised, and not trusted by the majority of industry, and this particular topic ( the over reaction towards jab) is a perfect example of the problem. How we fix it is far from simple. To be honest I don't know how we can.

Lol, some of the jokes in that thread are creative and quite funny. Lots of places to put down out near Wagga. Good on the PIC for pulling off a successful forced landing.

I should have added.. If we cant find an instructor, we will train a suitable candidate, for the cost of the aeroplane only!. So if you are interested in becoming an Instructor and live near Moruya, watch this space!

Lol. No, not me :)

All of them!! Lol Seriously tho, we have a gazelle, a sportstar and an atec Faeta. Great opportunity for anyone who likes costal living :)

Hey all. We have an opportunity for an instructor on the south coast. The position is for a senior RAA instructor ( preferably) in a thriving club in Moruya NSW. It's a great gig in a fantastic little coastal town, with accomodation available at the airfield. We thought we would advertise here first before posting to AFAP. Mods, fee free to move this post if it's in the wrong place :) Cheers

Wow..Cool video.. Im sure if anybody posted videos of instruction, we would find people disagree with lots of detail. there are a few things I would argue are not the norm..But I wont. All though I have to say.. Initial actions in an engine failure is certainly NOT Carby, fuel pump attitude. Enjoy the training mate. Great fun the jabs :)

Im not sure what we are discussing here? We all know the rules, and consequence for breaking them can result in your death. This is not new info, its not a new idea.

Thanks planey. Will do :)

Wait, I missed something. Was there further info on this accident relation to the handling of the aeroplane?

Yes. I expect instructors I trained (in the 160) to be able to pull off a reasonable approach and landing with simulated elevator failure, and aileron failure at the same time.. :) Most often with a go round at the last second when it was obvious the landing would be survived :) using power and flap changes its doable. Sometimes even touching down. I recall even being able to pull off a reasonable approach and landing in a Bantam with an instructor candidate, using nothing but flap, power and weight shifting.

I didnt think so either..

The bottom 2 :)

Yes, true..But lets not forget.. If the elevator is Jammed, trim works in the opposite direction (if its a trim tab) ..

Absolutely. We teach all sorts of control failure scenarios. Pitch control with power is very effective in some types, Jab 160's especially. I wasnt aware Bundy was a controlled airfield? Did it used to be?

Great movie, and some little pilot Gems hidden throughout ;)

Power has a secondary effect on pitch...Just saying :)

Bundy tower?

A good teacher encourages pilots to follow the rules. We dont break the rules to prove a point. Theres nothing complicated about it.

Yes Nev. It was an overload of the pilot situation. She could easily hand fly the appch, but as if just to allign some swiss cheese perfectly, the AP went down right in the middle of an appch change and some agressive vectoring from ATC.

Too right Nev. I have an instrument rating, and before I plan and fly IFR I try my absolute best to do the flight VFR first. I only go IMC if its really needed. I have shot a lot of approaches down to minimums which to be honest, I hate. Still, after a few hundred hours under the IFR and in IMC, I am not totally comfortable there. And thats with a full functioning bank of instruments. A few months ago I was in the right seat of a twin being flown by a friend who has a CIR and a reasonable amount of experience/ On appch the auto pilot went tits up and the pilot had to hand fly some tricky maneuvers ( vectors from ATC) . I was fixated on the AH in front of me and during a turn the pilot lost a bit of orientation the nose fell through the horizon and the bank was up to about 60 deg. I prompted her to level the wings, to which she said " they are level" . I grabbed the yoke and levelled the wings for her. That pilot has thousands of hours experience, and hundreds in IMC. Guys and girls. Dont play games or make bets with this stuff. There is only one sure bet, and the result is certainly not in your favour.

God I hope the aviation community don't judge us on the basis of this particular argument... Sad day when I read threads like this.

Something that not a lot of people understand is that there is a whole set of RULES involved in IFR. Its instrument flight RULES. Cruising around in a CU under Visual flight RULES is a serious no no. The pax carrying dash 8 on descent and IN the CU is operating under the assumption that VFR aircraft will not be in his way, as he is given IFR traffic by ATC. hes operating under a different set of RULES, and has no obligation to look out and SEE you whilst IMC. You, the VFR pilot ARE obligated to watch where you are going. All the nasty disorientation stuff aside, flying VFR in IMC of ANY description is not something ANY pilot in Australia should be encouraging. EVER.