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This comment should be moderated :hittinghead:

Well, no harm in asking. :black_eye:

Thanks Spin, indeed that is why I would have liked to have made it... to show some support. Just recently (a few months ago) I was ready to try and 'infiltrate" the club down there, in spite having also heard some spurious reports about it being 'private' and restrictive, I already had some understanding of the real situation. Then the latest situation presented itself and I have been waiting to see what eventuates. Let me know when you want to start catching bugs in your teeth... 2 way syndicate?

Between you and your students:bye:

Discussion of different methods can only be a good thing surely :big_grin:

Yeh won't complain too much! Thanks for asking as well. Just how LP are you gonna go? Yes heard about that, how is it working out?

Bugger I would have loved to have come... but alas...going flying. Anyone with a Drifter for hire down there Spin?

Lovely! Seriously, you have reformed me, never liked yellow (or its shades), the colour scheme (orange strengthening to red) and decals just work so very well and complement each other magnificently. Great choice and job

It is the orange and red stripes that set it off, pure yellow is terrible

Never been a fan of yellow... UNTIL NOW! Looks great

Hi :wave:psst.... Escape while you still have a chance (and your sanity)

No not aware of the mod policies, rightly so... we are so far off topic.... like this guy>>>

OH I get it

Your so vain MM... I was (ambiguously) referring to your assertion that: Astounding position... Not useful info? (Yet it was on your CPL) One wonders why:popcorn:

I caught that before you amended it MM :pokerface: No pressure cficare. Everything I said was correct:thumb up: too advanced? but YMMV

No What about you?

Your welcome and I was in no way upset, I was however quite bemused at how entirely you misrepresented what I had posted (with some support and understanding I thought) adding to any ambiguity and confusion. Yes indeed it does, I did however take this thread to be offering more than education to students, anticipating a significantly higher base level of knowledge amongst a discussion by more experienced pilots. I have reread my posts in order to remove any ambiguity but they are as clear as I can make them with my admittedly inept literary talents. I fixed this last bit for you

I never said anything of the sort...:baldy: All you have said above is a demonstration of how one dimensional your thinking is. Emergencies rarely are one dimensional. Lets all just theorise about Jabs and use that as the benchmark. (Ignore flaps while you are at it... they wont help at all...) Yes! Minimum sink WILL NOT get you to glide further, but NO ONE has said it would, certainly not me. Knowledge of it and how use that knowledge will! You have completely miscomprehended what I wrote (and ALL theory and practice supports). I guess that is what I get to take away from this: K.I.S.S. Though I thought it was... my apologies if it was my delivery that complicated the matter. "You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can not make him think." In 'Training for flights over water but close to the coast' (or anywhere else) during an engine failure - select best glide (whatever that is?). Tex Out:book:

No but sail plane pilots generally use kts, Hangliders and Paragliders used to use fpm but recently there has been a trend (out of Europe) to use mps AND meters for altitude I actually use kph, km, fpm and feet for altitude when hang gliding - but obviously standard units for all powered flying knts to fpm is pretty easy... 1kts x 101fpm knts to mps x .5

Need as much time as I could get, I would have a lot to confess If I was coming up 10ft to low to make it over that last tree or breaking wave I would confess I wish I knew more about speeds to fly!

TTIUWOP (This thread is useless with out pictures)

Valid and worthy considerations... Your method for working out speeds to fly in a powered configuration has merit and would work in that set up . The best way to work out best glide/min sink if they are not published is to plot your own. In a perfect world that is done in neutral air (neither lifting nor sinking airmass, so sunrise is the best) with the engine off, off course that is not practical (for everyone). Next best would be at idle. All you do is select an air speed (a fair bit above best glide) note sink rate, 5 knots slower, note sink rate etc and plot on graph for your polar curve. Of course spinning prop etc and general air plane config make it all variable. Just selecting A best glide speed is rather pointless as it is a function of wing loading, which changes everything! (The polar curves moves right with more weight). Usually published best L/D should state at what percentage of MTOW, if it is for less than MTOW and then you just select best glide when HEAVY (correction) you are probably actually closer to min sink! Confused yet HAHA Yes default to what you know (if that is all you know), best glide for best range with an engine failure If I am punching along over tiger country (or the ocean) knowledge of this is priceless when best glide still may not be enough to get you to a land-able area. One critical point to make it simpler as as well... any speed between best glide and min sink is a BETTER SINK RATE than best glide. You should be able to fly your aircraft comfortably between to min sink and best glide with out fear of stalling it. If you can't.....

That is true, not much difference, still very useful knowledge in anticipation that all (if any) of your emergencies may not happen as low at 500'. After all this thread is not about just being at 500'. I have read a few times on this forum "summoned the sum total of his knowledge and skill". When I think coastal I think ridge lift, might not be much, but that extra little puff of offshore wind blowing up a cliff face might be enough to get you around the headland (at 500') to a beach, but do you fly best L/D or Min sink? Just a little more in the memory bank can not hurt to answer that question. I hope you or I never need it in an emergency... YES, as an aside the knowledge will also help you save fuel too can never have enough of that stuff Sorry Mark... what can I say... it is all in here, no point in me trying to repeat it less eloquently:clap: As I said elsewhere: Gliding is the natural and ordinary state of flight. Just because you add an engine does not change the fact, that at its base level, you are flying a glider.