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Yeah I know the Porter is ok to stand on its nose with the prop in beta, but it is verboten in many other turbines, incl the Caravan a mate demonstrated it in - a little ashen when one of the senior pilots rammed home the consequences in a fairly fiery "debrief". Contract pilots in far away places!!:eek: My own time in a turbine has always been fairly informal, with someone watching over my shoulder so I don't pretend to know exactly how the whole power lever vs piston throttle difference plays out, but I have seen reference elsewhere to a prop "disking" ie being set to a finer pitch than if it were pulling the aircraft along at a given speed and that this could lead to disturbed airflow over the tailfeathers. Whatever - a fairly dramatic video I thought and worth a look and a bit of discussion.

Might be interesting to do so Chris, I know they have resolutely avoided commenting on the video during its previous airings, whereas the jumpmaster who has quite a bit do with the Angel project in general, offered the observation that it was "it was kind of 'interesting'... One of those combination of f*ckup things when all the holes line up" I originally put it down as an ill conceived stunt for the cameras, noting the apparent pro spin controls as well, but unless they were engaged in a frantic cover up once CAA took an interest, I'm not so sure now that it wasn't a case of beta thrust masking the flight controls and/or a spin being mis-identified as a spiral dive. The cameras are a given these days especially where there is a tandem involved. You're obviously familiar with the exercise and I trained long enough ago to have done my share of spinning (hence the tag), but since the authorities in their infinite wisdom decided to prevent pilots from experiencing it, the opportunities for mistakes have multiplied.

This one has enjoyed a restricted circulation locally, however for those who haven't seen it - a jump pilot makes a dogs breakfast of a drop and then compounds the error by not recovering from the resulting spin asap. Gives me the shivers! Quite a bit going on here, incorrect control application, rearward C of G, modified aircraft ......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17476615 I remember reading about this years ago - good old Readers Digest or similar in a waiting room:), but worth a second look.

Anyone watch it? Got it on the hard drive after watching the opening sequence; nothing quite like polished alloy....

Awcumon Willie, we were just indulging in a little gentle tail tweaking:) . I share your distaste for the US inspired, over the top social interaction, but there is still plenty of the laconic Aussie humour out there. It may have anglo-celtic roots, but is has developed well beyond its origins I think and a lot of the references are peculiarly antipodean. As for extreme ironing - old hat, there is even token aviation content in this version..... [ATTACH=full]1075[/ATTACH]

I see Amelia is on Ch 10 at 10.30 tonight, one to record I think. I see the reviews aren't marvellous, but people I know were involved in filming and some of the stills I saw looked pretty spectacular.

Interesting that he is edging closer to Kittinger's record, I thought he would have gone all out to beat it on the first attempt. Quite a project, I don't fancy skydiving at the best of times, but at that altitude I want a cockpit tub around me, a la MiG 25!

Obviously not for the original poster:), but I see Jeb Corliss will be on Sunday Night (Ch 7) tomorrow evening, giving his version of the recent Table Mountain incident

Hi Chris, missed this during the week - welcome to Brissie and TAA. DaveB mentioned that you guys had gotten together earlier in the year, missed that but will have to meet for a drink sometime. There are a number of fly-ins etc coming up in the next few months that are worth attending to get a feel for what happens at the various airfields; April 15 Qld Vintage Aero Group (QVAG) at Wondai Apr 21-22 Mega fly in @ Caboolture May 6 David Hack Memorial @ Toowoomba May 12-13 Wings, Warbirds and Wheels at Maryborough May 19 All in Fly in @ Watts Bridge (highly recommended) Cheers Carl

Not sure if I follow what you're after entirely, however the issue of aviation medicals is quite topical with the new RPL apparently about to become available. You could explore why medicals are called for, how effective they are (there was another recent incident where a commercial pilot died on a flight) and why it is that they may be done away with in certain circumstances. Compare the risks in a private flight versus cars travelling a metre away from another car with a closing speed of 200kmh plus......

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[ATTACH=full]1059[/ATTACH] Most SEQ based pilots will be aware of the monthly Straddie Breakfast, even if they haven't attended themselves. Held at Dunwich airfield, on North Stradbroke Island, they have become a must do and after several false starts, I managed to get out there today too. Things were none too promising when I woke with mist shrouding my place in the hills behind the Gold Coast, however the decision was made to give it a go and my son and I travelled up to Archerfield, nervously watching clumps of low cloud overhead. We managed to find a clear path out over Moreton Bay and were soon circling around the northern tip of the island at Point Lookout, before approaching the strip from overhead Dunwich. The dull light wasn't conducive to brilliant photos, however I snapped a few, including one through the drizzle streaked windscreen on final. Around 20 aircraft made it today, less than half the number for a good day, however that meant there was no shortage of breakfast fare for hungry aviators. All in all, well worth the trip out and our crew of 3 first timers are all determined to do it all again next time. Info here; http://www.stradair.com/ [ATTACH=full]1058[/ATTACH] Heading out over southern Moreton Bay [ATTACH=full]1060[/ATTACH] Dunwich with Peel Island and Cleveland in the background [ATTACH=full]1061[/ATTACH] Short final for 15 [ATTACH=full]1062[/ATTACH] Some of the hungry throng [ATTACH]18143[/ATTACH]

My only experience was with a ratty old C150 on one of my first night flights, the noise certainly got my attention, but I don't recall any real change to the feel of it. What did surprise me was how difficult it was to close the door, I'd always been told that it was nigh on impossible in a low wing aircraft, but even in a high wing it took a bit of doing. Avi8tr, as I understood Rudi's story, he closed the throttle when the aircraft bunted over, losing all the loose paperwork and his headset in the process! Once he got the canopy pulled down and persuaded the nose back up (with nearly full stick deflection) he didn't have a spare hand to open the throttle back up and couldn't reach with his elbow either - he tried.:) Says he was too afraid of losing control altogether if he let either canopy or stick go, so worked with what he had. Metalman, I vaguely remember a similar story, don't recall the type either (Dynaero?) but I think to crown it all they ended up inverted in a sandy field and battled to get out. I guess the best you can hope for with the rear hinged canopies, is that they will tear off without damaging either crew or airframe, as they depart.

Well in a KR2 - this.... [ATTACH=full]1052[/ATTACH] I'll admit to not being overly keen on bubble type, tip up canopies in the first instance, but this incident reinforced my determination to do everything possible to ensure that they are properly secured before I fly. Rudi Venter a well known South African EAA member had both catches on the canopy of his KR2 come loose recently and related how the canopy tipped up to approx 45 degrees in the airflow, completely disrupting the flow over the tail surface. The aircraft pitched nose down and it was only after he managed to grab and partially close the canopy, that he was able to regain a degree of control. Unable to work the throttle, with hands occupied with canopy and stick, he was able to mush to a landing in a field short of the runway - a pretty good result considering the alternative. I often look at aircraft low over the Gold Coast and remember Gary Sweetman, the local Zenith agent, who came unstuck in a CH-601 with a similar canopy, during a short test flight. Love aircraft, but dammit they can bite too! [ATTACH]18141[/ATTACH]

Interesting links - I reckon the average rag and tube owner (Thruster et al) would find much that was familiar about those aircraft. Funny how we have gone full circle.

Scary indeed, :eek: - comes high on the list of "things to avoid!"

G'Day Hongie, good to see you over here. Incidentally nothing much wrong with Mackay that I ever saw, maybe I haven't spent long enough there:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1cnvJO1TF8 From video explanation; In this video one can clearly see the difference between an ejection that only uses power cartridges (as in the older ejection seats) and a "new generation" seat that uses booster rockets as well. Notice how the seat separates from the dummy before impact with the rocket assissted ejection. The seat will typically stay attached to the pilot above 10 000ft to provide oxygen, and then automatically detach and fall away when the pilot descends below that altitude

Geez, someone had their battery quite comprehensively pee'd upon!:) That said, a quick amble through links suggested by google reveals a lot more strong feelings regarding the people behind what appears to be a pretty good machine. I see Celier and Trendak parted company recently, just to compound confusion.

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Yeah Willie I had seen the footage and photos; unfortunately reality and myth have become a little intertwined on this one with many people unable to distinguish that the video was a simulation, shown several times on disaster type TV shows. The IDF photos show the wing sheared off a foot or two outboard of the rh engine nacelle, just goes to show how much lift a modern blended wing design can generate from the fuselage and engines. Still an incredible story though. The incident is fairly well documented, including by Flight International which I would consider an authoritative source. I'm a long way from a military expert, but I too tend to favour the Silent Eagle over the JSF, particularly as we are unlikely to ever be able to afford enough of the latter to be an effective force. I'm guessing that offensive strikes over the border are increasingly going to done via UAV, leaving the manned aircraft to fulfill a more defensive role. Interesting times ahead.

All is forgiven, interesting sequence and siznaudin's link was worth a read too. I've always had a soft spot for the F-15, it is an amazingly versatile design and has proven itself in several wars.

Caution, teaser alert!! No photos Peter.:(