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Rick Morris is his name, now has a zenith

I know the previous owner, doesn’t look like it will fly again, substantially damaged

VH- SSK, recently acquired by the RAAF flying club Amberley, new engine, 10 hours old failed, no injuries

Facthunter's posts are generally very fair and reasonable, I don't know him personally but sounds like he has a vast experience and knowledge of all things that fly. I have been on this forum for many years and agree with most of his posts. you are just been a salesman and don't like hearing negative comments on a product your trying to sell/promote, its bad form bagging instructors if you have never instructed because they say the Atec is slippery and tricky to land.

Yep, also with a price tag to match. The more advanced the kit, the more you are going to pay

Your budget will be a big factor in what's the best aircraft for you mission, if buying a kit aircraft it will generally take three time longer to build than you intend and by the time your finished will also cost more than initially budgeted for. If you have your RPL there's plenty of good well priced small GA aircraft for sale that I wouldn't discount

Can you tell me what factory built training aircraft is under $50K There are very few Clubs doing flight training these days due to the many unpaid hours members need to put in to run such an operation and ongoing maintenance costs its become unviable At $200 an hour with no charge for ground schooling/ debrief they certainly are not doing it for money just maybe just the love A few years ago I went to Bankstown for unrelated business and remember looking at a flying school with poorly presented aircraft, an office that looked similar and thought to myself, why would I train here. Most young new pilots want flash and fancy these days 21st century buyers also learn the hard way that cheap is not always better

The costs outlined in the original post are probably not that far off, invest in a Sling 2 around $140K, either invest or lease hanger and office/training room, insurance, maintenance and repairs, fuel, if you are paying staff/ instructors there is workcover and other costs, admin, training and regulation costs. Now that we have added all the costs up, if it is your business you actually have to make money. The only wealthy flight schools I have seen seem to teach international pilots, I am yet to see a general small flight training school that have spare cash laying around

The accident with the P210 turbine was discussed in an earlier thread, he was not over an airport but because of his altitude he could glide back to Moruya, not sure if your familiar with that airport and weather but two very different situations, in the above video there are quite a few options with clear and relatively flat paddocks, Moruya has no options other than the airfield and he didn't miss it by much. Good job in the above video but wasn't much room left in the end.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/santa-maria-van-nuys-central-california-plane-crash-school-video/2365863/ This happened a few days ago in the states, BRS don't always work as planned, but they do have a place and in some instances they would of saved lives

This is just a silly statement without knowing any of the circumstances, as I said in my earlier post there are so many variables that would determine the outcome of this incident. I do agree with the remainder of your post though

I find it rather amusing that there are quite a few in this thread that seem to think that it would be just so easy to land perfectly on the runway, there are so many factors that would determine the outcome of this situation, the cloud at Moruya has been very frequent of late, the smoke from close by fires, wind, prop may not have feathered, unfamiliar runways and terrain. If there was cloud or smoke on the day he may have had little time to actually see the unfamiliar runways to judge his position and altitude, if the pilot was flying around the world I would assume he was quite experienced, I would also like to know if the few on this thread that seem to think it would be so easy to land and just walk over to the maintenance shop for repairs, how many have deadsticked a turbined P210 at Moruya

I think there a good trainer, you just need a good instructor, they teach you how to use the rudder in a stall. On a hot day they could do with a few more pony's as climb performance is fairly average at MTOW. They had a bad reputation in the States in there early years for killing instructors and students from the tail departing the airframe during spinning, but they fixed that problem. By the look of the photo and the damage, the airframe has held up fairly well considering the location and trees Hope the pilot has a speedy recovery

Looks like he has full right rudder as soon as it enters the spin, he take pressure of a couple of times and resumes full right rudder again, he then try's forward and back elevator and nothing seems to stop the spin. Why would someone stage that and rely on the chute that you have no control over, there are much better and safer ways to get rid of an aircraft for insurance purposes

Moment pilot's life saved by parachute attached to out-of-control aircraft - Deadline News Lucky this one had a chute in it! Looks a lot like a Bristell but not certain. Maybe a good idea if Bristell go down the same path as Cirrus and have chutes as standard equipment, there just seems to be a pattern emerging