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the book was a bit confusing on those topics for me too, but a quick session with Glenn (CFI) cleared it all up, so definitely get your instructor to go over it with you. Easier to remember too if it's coming from the instructor and not just out of the book

Gotta love the Fred Flintstone Undercarriage

Well, at least there is always Plan B(eer) ;)

FS JABIRU 230D TTIS117 Hrs - Recreational Flying this one in classifieds, seen this aircraft it's a Jab flagship, v nice. Not sure if its sold yet

Congrats Mike, great vid, another Top Gun tragic I see, love it :-D

Anyone know any details about the Cunderdin (easter?) Airshow this year. Can't seem to find any decent info yet..

Sounds like a plan will stay tuned.....

Well done Brett, another WA soon to be pilot, hope to see you up in the blue sometime...

" Sustainable Vertical Speed - 60 KIAS, 5,000 fpm, straight up! " haha thats unreal...

No Carby heat in a foxbat? How does it deal with icing in the carby then? Having only flown Jabs so far am just curious...

lemme finish my navx endorsements . i'll join ya, in a jab just to balance things out ;)

This should give you a general idea of the jab panel, obv can differ, brakes and trim in front of centre stick

Mine wasn't entirely dropped on me out of the blue, as the weather hadn't been playing along and was waiting for good weather, then one afternoon it was perfect about 5-7kn straight down 09. Up we went in the J160 for two or 3 circuits and good landings and instructor offered me to go Solo. I grabbed it, taxied back and added Fuel so as to counter at least some of the weight loss. Instructor warned its a totally different aircraft one up, and boy he wasn't wrong! Bactracked 09 trying to keep nerves at bay, lined up, made the call and buried the throttle..... well that was my mistake.. too much power too fast and torque caught me off guard - I was heading 45 deg left for the bush, something took over and i aborted takeoff because i didn't wan't to go bush or try and recover and be snaking down the runway on my solo takeoff. Came to a stop, *breathe* and backtracked again. Pulled my self together and gradually fed power this time, acceleration much quicker and she leapt off the ground, wow. She climbed much better, about 700fpm rather than 300 fpm I was used to with two up. The best thing was that procedure took over, no time for panic, good circuit. I must say i did allow myself a fat grin on downwind which was quickly wiped off when I realised I now had to put this thing down with nobody to bail me out if I stuffed up... Approach was good, no dramas, and landing was good only she didn't want to land, just floated more than what I was used to, 1500 m of runway so didn't need breaks just rolled her back to to parking bay. It was then my I noticed my hands shaking and heart beating through my chest, and the endorphins kicked in, took a few days to wipe that grin off my face. Instructor was waitng with congratulatory handshake and camera to put a pic up on his wall of fame with other solo students. Cliche but its something I will never forget, box ticked!

As an additional thought - In discussions with my CFI about directional control in the Jab, more specifically the J230, with the nose attitude too high part of the rudder can be effectively *blanked* out, by simply lowering the nose a bit, but still keeping the nose off obviously, there is suddenly more rudder control, due to I supect more airflow over the entire rudder surface. May apply to a 170 with same wings as 230 and bigger fuse, any thoughts? CFI has also installed soft steering kit (not sure of the proper technical term but is supplied by Jabiru) on the J160 and this has seemed to help alot as the nosewheel steering is not so twitchy on the ground ( just a bit of a pig to turn on a narrow strip now)

I kan do fysiks me Just a a general theoretical addition to this thread for those who like to think in numbers - You can look at the energy calculations which will tell you how much energy you have to wash off to stop the thing Kinetic Energy (KE - in Joules) = 0.5 * mass(kg) * velocity (m/s) squared You work out how much difference there is in landing a j160 at 65 knots ground speed and say 80 knots ground speed at mtow 540kg (just for simplicity sake) 65kn = 301201 Joules 75kn = 402289 Joules 80kn = 458309 Joules thats 33% more energy to wash off at 75 knots and 50% more energy to wash off at 80 knots than at 65 knots Opened my eyes at least as I was always fast on approach when first learning to land, suppose it's the same principal why a car takes so much longer to stop at just 5km'h difference (there was that ad on tv) (ps that calc sounds right but you will have to forgive me if its totally wrong since high school physics was more than a decade ago :hittinghead: then I'l just go back to hammering rocks and lifting evvy fings )

!#$#* Somebody fire up the bbq I'm getting a real gun...

Missus gave me a couple of hours in the air (Jab hire) Still grinning:big_grin: Can't wait to get back in the air after a short break over xmas

At risk of hijacking this thread:sorry: would tall timber (6'4") fit in a Bantam? Am keen to try flying one But methinks my head will stick out over the glass and never mind the legs too... Guess its best to find one and go have a sit ..

Yeah me too As long as I leave 8hrs bottle to throttle right?

I am about 195 cm tall and my instructor about the same, we fit fine in J230 :) Only some J230's might have glass cockpit for instance added so the instrument panel comes down a bit too far and presses against the knees, no fun on a long flight... J160 even roomier

As I said in another post I passed the HF exam by hardly flicking through the book so almost felt bad when I passed it so easily, but yeah it is all common sense stuff. I am still going to attend the HF course/seminar which my cfi wants to run, with a bunch of other students it will be much more beneficial with discussion and bouncing ideas off eachother etc than reading the book

I know you guys are probably sick all theses hypotheticals...but Does this mean we could theoretically see the mtow for a j230 under raa increase from 600kg to 700kg as it is rated under GA? I don't see it as an issue as 600kg is just a number to keep it legal under lsa category for this particular aircraft.It's not a structural limit is it? Paint letters on the side instead of numbers and it becomes 700kg mtow. Will she stall with no flaps at (or below) 45knots at 700kg?

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I passed the RAA HF exam after going through this book Just my 2c worth

So I got my Restricted license last weekend, over the moon! License to go learn as they say. That was the Friday and went for NAV 1 the next day. Out of the J160 into the J230. She's a beast . Think she'll be my bird of choice from now on... My instructor and I are both around the 6'4" mark and to put it politely I am not so petite;) so we have had some "interesting" climbouts in the 160 on those warmer days. Obviously we were limited by Fuel to stay under MTOW - So it was sort of a goal to be out tof the 160 before summer...goes well one up though. Also did the Human Factors exam and passed it after going through (more like skimming)the Aviation theory text book. My Instructor will be holding a course/seminar for HF which I would like to attend anyway, won't hurt or cost me anything and i can use it as an excuse to get out there to go for a fly :big_grin: NAV2 next, reading the books and doing the flight pans with different weather every couple of days so I get a hang of it, just waitng for RAAus to post me my card so it says "pilot" and not student...maybe then it will start to sink in a bit Hope to see some of you up there in the blue sometime...