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Im assuming he was erring on the side of caution. How many pilots would dare to ask the overweight female passenger what she weighs!!!! I would think even though pilots should not exceed MTOW it does happen. If 760kg MTOW is exceeded then you are into the 1.5x safety factor. at 700kg MTOW overload you obviously are still well outside 1.5 x factor. So no sneaking over in SA. or in experimental class here when you have C of A at 760 kg The south Africans love their Jabbies. If you go to AV com to the jabiru section you will find the love. If you go to Jabiru website and you tube you will see videos of structural testing. I have heard they do get off the ground at 800kg edit . sorry about the lines! showed up after posting!!??

I Asked Mr Stiff about this on the ph about a year or more ago . The enquiry from me was " If I was to build a j430 and wanted 760kg could I get a letter stating the aircraft is rated for that MTOW" "This letter would be to show the inspector at experimental certification time that the designer approves of the MTOW:." His answer was "yes, no problem with that" Remebering an experimental aircraft can have the MTOW set by the builder. The letter would be to set the inspectors mind at ease that the aircraft is safe at the MTOW. Rod told me the aircraft was designed for 760kg with a 1.5x safety factor. He set 700kg for Australia to leave 10% safety margin for the overloading pilots ! [ If I remember correctly] Once the aircraft is certified for a MTOW I reckon it would take a mountain of paperwork to Get CASA to increase it. Needs to be done at initial ceritfication I would think. This conversation was had after I saw the MTOW of the South African Jabs and sent an email to them asking if there was any mods th get the 760kg. They then sent my enquiry to jabiru Australia, whom then Rang me. Hope this helps any future builders.

SECTION 4.08 REPORTING IMMEDIATE AND ROUTINE REPORTABLE MATTERS GENERAL Recreational aeroplanes and associated ground or flight operations are required to comply with the reporting requirements of the Transport Safety Investigation Act 2003 (TSI) and the Transport Safety Investigation (TSI) Regulations 2003. DEFINITIONS The definitions of Immediate Reportable Matters and Routine Reportable Matters are defined in RAAP 2 -2016 Reporting Requirements. For RAAus purposes an Immediate Reportable Matter (IRM) was previously defined as an Accident, and a Routine Reportable Matter (RRM) was previously defined as an Incident. NOTIFICATIONS Notification of an IRM must be made as soon as practicable, and in writing within 72 hours, whereas an RRM must be notified in writing within 72 hours of the occurrence. RAAus members will fulfil their written obligations under the TSI Act by submitting an online report via the RAAus website using the online Occurrence Management System (OMS). A report submitted via the OMS on the RAAus website will automatically be forwarded to the ATSB and fulfil the obligation for written notification of the IRM or RRM. As responsible persons, the pilot in command, the owner, the operator and the hirer (as applicable) must each ensure that their IRM and RRM reporting requirements are fulfilled within 72 hours of the occurrence. Note: A responsible person need not submit a report if they have reasonable grounds to believe another responsible person has already reported the occurrence. Further detail about IRM and RRM follow up and investigation processes, along with analysis and information sharing is provided in RAAP 2 – 2016 Reporting Requirements

Coins thrown into plane engine by old lady for luck cause delay

Excellent. Many hours of enjoyment to you sir.

while on legalities . If I wanted to put my tools of trade into my RAA or GA experimental aeroplane , and fly out to old mate out back . Do some plastering and not deduct the cost of the flight for tax purposes , would this be legal? I believe that you cannot use the aircraft for reward , but can you use it to get you to a place where you get the "reward"

Sometimes people in authority think they know best . even when being pointed in the right direction by the know nothing public! Also remember this is all second and third hand info . no facts here , only relayed story. Any part could be incorrect.

I was out at my mum s place today. This is hearsay at best . The witness who saw the plane go down looked up as he heard the engine cut. he watched the plane bank right travelling from the south . it clipped the top of a tree then disappeared behind a hill. He saw exactly where it went down but the search was everywhere else! Young bloke on a horse decided to look where the plane was seen to hit the tree top. Found it in a few hours. I believe this witness is an aviator and aviation teacher. No mention this time of broken wing It may be possible the engine was cut on purpose in prepp for emergeny landing due to partial wing failure.[this is pure speculation on my part] There is a recently cleared dirt road right under where the plane was seen to hit the tree top Not many long flat paddocks in the area below looks to me like he might have been trying for that road but was too high on final Its on a very steep hill ,would be difficult to land on I think There is a CTA step up where the bloke was flying. from 4500ft to 8500 ft from memory. That's all I have heard. again second and third hand info.

Old Mate was found about 9am at limpinwood on a property next door to my Mothers . Apparently a witness who saw the plane go down teaches Aviation at TAFE . So hopefully RAA etc can get a good idea of what happened from him. .He was probably having a whole lotta fun before the bad bit I wonder if he would have liked this: Flying West... I hope there's a place, way up in the sky, Where pilots can go, when they have to die. A place where a guy could buy a cold beer For a friend and a comrade whose memory is dear. A place where no doctor or lawyer could tread, Nor a management -type would e'er be caught dead! Just a quaint little place, kind of dark, full of smoke, Where they like to sing loud, and love a good joke! The kind of a place where a lady could go, And feel safe and secure by the men she would know. There MUST be a place where old pilots go, when Their wings become weary, when their airspeed gets low; Where the whiskey is old, and the women are young, And songs about flying and dying are sung. Where you'd see all the fellows who'd "flown west" before, And they'd call out your name, as you came thru the door, Who would buy you a drink, if the thirst should be bad, And relate to the others, "He was quite a good lad!" And then thru the mist you'd spot an old guy You had not seen for years, though he'd taught YOU to fly, He'd nod his old head, and grin ear to ear, And say, "Welcome, my son, I'm pleased you are here! For this is the place where true flyers come, When the battles are over, and the wars have been won; We've come here at last, to be safe and afar, From the government clerk, and the management czar, Politicians and lawyers, the Feds and the noise, Where all Hours are Happy, and these good ol' boys, Can relax with a 'cool one', and a well deserved rest.." "This is Heaven, my son: You've passed your last check!"

Prob best to contact Murbah Aero club. 02 6672 3235. As far as I'm aware all hangars are full. but someone may be able to shuffle something around for a few days. eagle air flight school may be able to help 0413 025 178 Michael from memory , lost his card.

Yep. watched a few do circuits today as I was at the hardware store.

Apology accepted. locals call it Murbah At least its not too cold here . Hopefully old mate will be found in the morning OK

Gday Blackhawk The Cougar is basically a copy of the Wittman Tailwind. Some differences are the cougar has folding wings and no flaps to help facilitate the folding wings. The landing gear on the tailwind is different to the cougar as the Tailwind gear was patented by Steve wittman. The cougar gear was prone to breaking the fuselage due to tourque forces in inadequately re inforced structure. Also the cougar plans are said to be woefully inadequate and many builders ended up buying tailwind plans. There are now separate plans that can be bought for full aluminium wet wings for the tailwind , and a lot of mods from the original that are now being used . You should try the Yahoo Tailwind group. Active forum with many builders and plenty of help and advice. I would like to build something like this with a jabiru 3300 turbo efi and Liquid cooled heads aprox 160hp. I reckon it would be good for 230Mph TAS at 10000 ft flat out That's about 200knots or 370kph. Just be aware that the stall speed at 600kg would be around 55 60mph which is 48 -57 knots so may stall a little high for RAA Reg . Again the guys in the tailwind forum can answer stall speed questions etc. You will need to join the group to ask questions , takes about 24 hours to be accepted Yahoo! Groups

From the tech Manual: 3.3 LEVEL TWO (L2) Maintenance Authority 3.3.1 L2 may be applied for via TECH FORM 015 – L2 APPLICATION and may be issued on the basis of qualifications and experience of the applicant. L2 privileges are valid for two years and are subject to renewal via TECH FORM 012 – LEVEL 2 re-appointment. In order to renew these privileges, an L2 must conduct at least two annual or 100 hourly inspections within two years. This may be considered for variation on a case-by-case basis, upon application to the Technical Manager. A LAME is issued with a perpetual L2, subject to continued validity of the LAME Licence. No L2 renewal is required. Looks like they want the L2 to do 2 annual inspections in 2 years. The Form 12 asks for the details of these 2 inspections [owner , type ,rego , private etc] and the usual name address etc

Ok. Thats even better. Thanks Ian