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The crash report is only preliminary, the NTSB did not travel to the scene of the crash, and all the "evidence" presented is from the pilots and witnesses statements. https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/195385/pdf

The first clip has been made using illegally-acquired genuine footage. The thieving internet scumbags use a mirroring copying technique which reverses the imaging to get around YouTube copyright and watermark checks.

For bobcharl - here is the link to the discussion, "Started a spare parts list" ...

The tubing will likely be precision seamless drawn tubing, made from aviation grade alloy, heat treated and tempered to a British or American Standard. The precision finish is required to ensure minimal unevenness in wall thickness. No aluminium agricultural pipe for carrying water would have any degree of strength, it is seamed (a weakness), and it would have a large variation in wall thickness over each length. However, you can purchase Unipipe, which is produced in a range of aluminium alloys, some of which are designed for high pressure piping, and which may have adequate strength. The "T" reference in the aluminium grades refers to the heat treatment, with T6 being the strongest and toughest aluminium grade - but it is also the grade with the lowest level of elongation. Elongation is the figure that shows just how much a metal stretches before it fractures. Lower strength metals will generally have higher elongation rates than high strength metals, but this is not always 100% the case. Good corrosion resistance is also a highly desirable characteristic of any aluminium material used in an aircraft. Aircraft Materials WWW.AIRCRAFTMATERIALS.COM Aluminium 6060 Data Sheet - BlueScope Distribution WWW.BLUESCOPEDISTRIBUTION.COM.AU 6060 is a medium strength heat treatable alloy with good corrosion resistance, weldability and responsiveness to anodising. See the data sheet here.

Possibly one too many dog leg-cocks on tree, and tree finally gave up? Dog looks pleased, must be a reason for that.

......that any London bus driver can become a billionaire if they're ruthless enough. In fact, they offer a degree in corporate shafting training, and ASIC questioning evasion skills, that is highly sought after in countries such as those run by dictators and ruthless despots. One day, the receptionist at BU fielded a call from Kim Jong-il. "How do I get one of these degrees that enables me to compete on a level playing field in the Western corporate world"?, he asked. "I've been to the best Swiss schools, but none of them gave me the skills and training needed to deal with ruthless corporate deal-makers, such as Donald Trump! I need to up my skills level, so when he announces he's going to turn North Korea into the Riviera of the East, I can be ready to........

.....tasteless photo and expressing his dislike for it. One day, he asked who took the photo. When OT explained it was taken by a friend of his who lived in Moorabbistan, and who was an occasional pilot and speedway fiend, and known to be involved in selling some dodgy brands of trucks, Alan burst out with, "Well, take the XXXXXX thing down, then! That wall needs something tasteful hung on it, I'll send around a photo of Australia II, and it can replace that tasteless thing!! And let me know where I can find this Turbo bloke, there has to be something in it for me, if he's...........

Well, it does get to play a part in engine cooling if it returns to the cooling system.

You should never lose coolant overboard at any time, under normal operation. Coolant lost is cooling ability reduced.

The wreckage of the Caravan has been found and there are no survivors, the aircraft crashed onto sea ice and was totally destroyed. Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Benjamin McIntyre-Coble is reported as saying, "(the aircraft was involved in) some kind of event which caused them to experience a rapid loss in elevation, and a rapid loss in speed. What that event is, I can't speculate to." Ten Dead In Alaska Caravan Crash WWW.AVWEB.COM Plane went down in fog on sea about 12 miles offshore.

The sheer idiocy is in the allowing of intersecting air traffic at low level, with only 100 feet clearance, where height measurement can only be done reliably by very precise instruments. FFS, the NTSB is still struggling with altitude accuracy of the Blackhawk from its FDR, which wasn't even time-stamped. They're talking about trying to define to more accuracy, a 50 foot altitude variation at 300 feet! Even the ATC screens only report 100' variations. And why did the Blackhawk pilot request "visual separation" when ATC were in a far better position to advise track and altitude? The U.S. military has to wear a lot of blame for this crash, with procedures that act as if they're the only ones in the sky. NTSB Delayed In Altitude Verification Of Collision Aircraft WWW.AVWEB.COM Blackhawk’s FDR data was missing time stamps.

.....the Jaguar badges won't be regularly pilfered by the multitude of Indian poverty-stricken Indian orphans, who have been known to even nick engines from running Drifters and Thrusters - thus leading to great mystification amongst Drifter and Thruster pilots, as to why zero thrust was available, despite full throttle being applied. One of these notorious orphans, a quick-witted youngster named Paramjit Turbonakshi, was the primary suspect involved in a large blackmarket of near-new Drifter and Thruster engines regularly available cheaply, in many States on the Sub-Continent. The Indian Police were regularly outsmarted by Paramjit Turbonakshi, as it appeared he always had prior knowledge of policing actions that were planned. Finally, a trap was devised, whereby a police stooge by the name of Onkar Cappiranjit - who had formerly been a good friend of Paramjit Turbonakshi, before they had a falling-out over an entire shipload of blackmarket gin, that disappeared whilst supposedly under Onkar Cappiranjit's supervision - was to act as a............

Do you understand there will also have to be a comprehensive tree danger audit, within the complete aerodrome boundaries? Every standing tree will require a full assessment, as to its particular danger to aviation and aviators! Just imagine, you could've easily been the first "falling timber" aerodrome fatality. The aerodrome rules will need to be re-written!

.....goad CASA inspectors (and Fisheries Inspectors) any time they wanted to take a peek at bull's equipment. Now, when we say "equipment"; people with low-level thoughts (such as Cappy) would be drooling at the thought of acquiring a photo of a CASA inspector, inspecting bulls "equipment" - but the truth is, when the word "equipment" is used in this context, it doesn't refer to any of bulls wedding tackle, it refers to items he's using during flying or fishing, which have a level of safety requirements attached to them. As bull is known to regularly ignore a lot of safety regulations and other...........

The engraved plastic strips glued to the instrument panel would be my choice. The plastic strips are multi-layer strips of plastic and the engraving produces a very professional finish. Dymo tape falls off with high temperatures.

I think that statements a bit of a cheap shot - without providing any evidence - at a lot of people who do a lot of hard work to try and define causes behind crashes. There may be some studies, initiated by companies with a vested interest, to get a desired study outcome, but the studies by the universities are generally even-handed.

It's around 12% for car and truck drivers, surprisingly. The University of Adelaide did a study on it in 2008. For pilots, quite likely a lot less, but possibly more than you might expect, too. After a serious aviation crash, often with accompanying fire, it can be difficult to determine precisely whether a medical event precipitated the crash. For older pilots (over 65), the potential of a medical episode causing a crash would be greatly increased.

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I can recall a a fatal with a microlight at Beverley, W.A. in the late 1970's/early 1980's. He took off with fuel tank cock turned off. Got up to about 100-150 feet, and came straight back down again. The irony of the incident was, the bloke was a senior air crash investigator with BAS, and he must have seen and investigated dozens of air disasters caused by simple human errors, and a lack of disciplined checklists. Even the best of the best, and some of the most highly respected aviators, have terminated their lives (and others) with incredibly simple errors, related to forgetfulness.

Well, the willy-willies they measured might have only travelled at those low speeds, but I can tell about some personally viewed experiences of mini-tornadoes in W.A., that would indicate wind speeds in excess of 200kmh. In July 1975, at my minesite at Higginsville W.A., I endured a frightening night of howling winds from a major storm that travelled through the Southern Goldfields and S.W. W.A. I was sheltering in a 3-room former railway fettlers hut, a very sturdily built timber building, that was built in 1907, when over-building for strength was the order of the day. I'd transported 4 of these buildings to the mine in 1972, from the nearby Pioneer siding, when the narrow gauge line was upgraded to standard gauge in 1971. I would estimate the consistent winds that night, of around 70-90kmh, with gusts around 100-110kmh. In the morning, I drove S into Norseman, down the Coolgardie-Esperance Rd, and about 10kms S of my mine, a mini-tornado had left a trail of destruction through the native vegetation on the Eastern side of the highway. Now, the vegetation in that area is hefty stuff, big Salmon Gums, decent-size Gimlet trees, and Goldfields Blackbutt trees, interspersed with lighter scrubby trees and bushes. But there was a strip of country there, that looked like someone had dragged a clearing chain between two bulldozers along it. Big Salmon Gums, a metre wide at the base, had been screwed off about 1.5-2M high, leaving shattered stumps. There wasn't a single tree left intact over a length of probably 700-800 metres, and about 100 metres wide. It was total and utter devastation, and it was caused by intense cyclonic wind, and nothing else. I wouldn't have liked to have been in a building in that mini-tornado's path. I've seen the results, in the wheatbelt, of multiple numbers of farm sheds that were destroyed by mini-tornadoes embedded in storms. Some of them were sturdily built from RSJ (I-beam or Universal Beam, or Universal Column, as they're called today), with structural steel trusses. The tornado-like winds just blew them apart. In one case, the mini-tornado picked out a single shed in amongst a group of sheds and a house, and destroyed that single shed, and nothing else. It was like the mini-tornado had simply fallen out of the sky onto that single shed. I have great respect for what concentrated strong winds can do, especially when they're in storms embedded in strong cold fronts, or in thunderstorms.

In W.A., the structural engineer certifies the design as safe and meeting structural standards, so I'd guess the buck stops with him. As to wind speeds, that would have to be a curly one when it comes to a stoush over a collapsed shed. Willy-willies/mini-tornadoes can develop high wind speeds over a small area and a short distance. I can recall my father telling me about seeing a windmill tower screwed up so tightly by a willy-willy, the tower ended up looking like a length of steel wire rope. You'd need an anemometer on the site to be able to get the exact wind speed of any willy-willy.

We need to read the ATSB report, videos are noted for poor explanations and superfluous information. https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-items/2024/inadvertent-rudder-trim-input-led-737-flight-upset

MB, you're lucky you didn't get, "what's 1/2" in millimetre size?" - and end up being supplied with 12mm bolts. Probably 80% of my equipment is U.S.-design and origin, and I still have the majority of my fasteners in inch sizes and imperial strength grades, and 80% of my tools are A/F or other "inch measure" tools. I was lucky in that I went to high school in the era when imperial measures were still the primary measure, but we were also taught metric measures, too. The kid today seem to be taught no useful life skills, nor even any basic measuring or maths skills. Ever got to a till where the amount owing is say, $11.65, and you're paying cash, and you say, "I've haven't got a tenner, but I'll give you a twenty and $1.65 in coins" - and watched the utter confusion on the youngsters face, as they try to grasp the amount of change to be given? Of course, they've fixed that problem, by providing modified registers, that tell the operator the amount to be given in change.

Marty, note the total lack of cross-bracing in the walls and roof of the shed you linked to. In addition, there's a serious lack of bracing at the apex of the rafters, and at the knee joints with the columns. These are critical areas that come under heavy load with wind gusts. Add in the fact that the lipped C-channel sections in the frame are notorious for twisting and thus losing inherent strength - and that this has to be addressed by using braces between the frame and purlins and girts - but the shed shows none of that style of frame bracing. The minimum requirement for knee bracing - Here is improved knee bracing - and also showing rafter bracing to the purlins to prevent twist - but this design still lacks adequate apex bracing, to my mind.

I'll wager that NVG's played a large part in the crew errors leading to this disaster - and the investigators are almost certainly intent on trying to determine whether they were being worn or not. The training was a simulated night "escape" for VIPS under a simulated major U.S. leadership attack, such as the 911 scenario. Why Are D.C. Plane Crash Investigators Focused on Night-Vision Goggles? - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM Investigators have yet to determine whether the crew of an Army helicopter was wearing the devices when the Black Hawk crashed into a civilian airliner last week.