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In Jabs I always take off neutral trim. In a go around stick goes forward with throttle, and trim as soon as you can. I find if you keep the nose down from the start and not let it get to high up it seems to work - I must say I haven't really done many go arounds recently in a Jab, but In J230's and the J120 that's my general procedure. Don't think that's specific to just the J170 Tubz, nearly every aircraft I fly I have a hand on the control and use the other to move the trim... Unergonomic...? At least the flap gauge is at eye level and moves, some of the C172M aircraft's flap gauge is pretty painful. You soon learn the 4 second, 2s and 2s system...

Great work Robyn!

Yep, Glider up's and down's aren't really felt, only if they are big ones and the glider hits the ground again there's a bit of a jerk. It's worse if they don't correct for crosswind and drift and pull the tug tail over, but it's all part of the fun! The tug release is always near by if anything goes real bad, but glider pilots are usually fairly on the ball as well. Experienced glider pilots you hardly know they are on the back, they just 'stick' there. This failure was carried out the best way it could have been, I'm about 95% sure it would have been fuel starvation though... seems so prominent in glider tugs, particularly Pawnees - the tank is on an angle so just looking in through the cap may look like there's more than there is - I know the ones I fly now have a dip stick system due to a few incidents over the years. If for instance you have a cable break you do as Exadios mentions and just keep on keeping on.

No worries Frank, wasn't concerned just curious myself. Seems it depends on the age, and model of Baron... as they started off with Cont. 470, then 520, then Lycoming 540 etc... so we'll have to just contend ourselves with that!

Sounds like an idea, can't wait for it!

Sure it's a Cont IO-540? If it's Continetal it would have to be 520, Lycoming is 540 is it not?

Great shots indeed, something in seeing a fast object fly past at high speed isn't there!

To right, get someone who doesn't know how to start one and it's amusing though....

Great news!

I got carb ice in cruise in a 172, the only time I've ever had it in an aircraft.

Aye, welcome along Kev, good to have you. Sounds like you'll be a handy man to have around with all that knowledge!

Gee, we're slowly loosing all the good ones aren't we!!

Good stuff TBAR, at first I thought you must hail from the town of Toowoomba... as the locals call it Tbar for short!

Soooo, where do I get some sponsors....?

Thanks Kiwi, I've got that in my phone, but I reckon it would just make more sense to have it on a VH frequency too!

Where do you draw the line? I could say I'm annoyed because I'm not a skilful horse and buggy driver because of all this technology... but that would be silly. I purposely chose the RAA way to begin my aviation adventure - not only because it's far cheaper, but because you get to fly aircraft like the Drifter, and you do learn stick and rudder - the fundamentals of flying. I don't think I'd have as much feel for an aircraft if I just went straight into something like a 172, they do literally fly themselves. I've just spent the last three weeks servicing about 28 school buses for a company. Most of them now have auto boxes in them because of the simple fact you can't get drivers to drive a manual, particularly if it's a crash box! I wouldn't say the driver that can only drive an auto box is a worse driver than the one that can handle a crash box. They just posses different skills, the crash box driver would have more 'skills' than the auto driver, but they would both have the fundamental ability to drive the bus safely - one would hope. So what I'm getting at is, technology shouldn't be replaced by 'the' fundamental skill of an operation. It just makes it a lot easier, and in many ways safer. Personally I reckon students training to be an airline pilot, or the syllabus to train such pilots need to have a serious section on BAK, no joke! Not only on paper but in the air. Use the technology but by all means understand the fundamental controls of what you are actually operating. Not sure if that makes sense, but that's just my 2 cents...

Gee, what a riveting book, I'll have to think about getting that now... Edit: Couldn't help it, after reading more I ended up getting a copy off Ebay, 17 bucks incl postage from the US

Yup!

Wow! that's pretty cool Icebob, thanks for the information.

Bit of a restoration project for someone who's keen! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RAN-1954-Havilland-Vampire-aircraft-RAF-Cockpit-A79-840-RAF-/170770779777?pt=AU_Aircraft&hash=item27c2bb4e81#ht_500wt_1219

Indeed it does, the J160 seems to be the only one that has some Performance figures for different scenarios. Well there you go, I've seen my first RAA P chart!

That's interesting, thanks Mark!