johnm

to me - an aero club (or a club of flyers) is a great way to promote aviaiton if outsiders can see a successful club - there is a fair chance outsiders they will then get interested - this must be good in all organisations there is the political side - you don't have to get interested in that part of it ........... if you don't want to If I look back at my old aero club (1/2 a lifetime ago) - yes they probably had more comraderie - but that was probably because of no internet (and facebook) - you actually met people face to face (not thru a puta) The concept of the club is the best way to go - you can't take a computer with you flying (mind you all the gadgets these days - that last statement might not be true) I agree with 68volksy - a Council should support an aero club - its part of the community. If a club can establish good ties at a local airport then the asset is more secure for flyers (and visiting flyers) If you don't .......................... support your local club and at least show your face around the perimeter of the building - become more socail for the sake of aviation if there is no club where you are flying - START ONE - NOW !

i'm wrong there ! fletcher woul carry about 1000+ kgs - i'll slink off and take another 'red' pill

C of G yes - overall weight would not be a problem ................. say 8 + 1 = 9 POB @ 100 kg = 900 kg I'd say a fletcher could lift easily twice that weight - turbine poered probably lots more

thanks FH we'll bore in on the seat and will check level in the hangar

Boffins with a rotax 912 (about 700 hours) - high wing aeroplane - with the fuel cocks left on .............. the passenger side air cleaner is saturated with fuel (over say a 2 day period) and there is a small quantity of fuel on the fuel tray this leads to a rough start - lots of fuel one side - not the other have replaced the internal horizontal float pins and the rubber seat valves - but problem still persists (might need a closer look at the seat valve again) is there any other reasons for fuel on the fual tray ? thanks

thinest book at library ............ 'copulation technique down under' author: Guernsey printed copies: 2 reprints: 0

pretty quiet here so .............................................................. boo anyone spilt their coffee ?

CSCOTTHENDRY & KYLE COMMUNICATIONS Great idea and good support Kyle If you get bogged and need money - I'll chip in $ 50 I reckon you have put the avistion authorities safety boffins to shame ! Great safety idea - cscotthendry .............. please take a good rest before you hatch another one

Sherri its a degenerative conversation forgive them ..................... they know not what they do if they were sheep they would pack into a fence line and smother

glyneoz - its because you are too close to Canberra ..................... a lot of wind gets generated there

A Scotsman walks into the Bank of England in Central London and tells the manager that he is going to Australia on business for two weeks and needs to borrow £5,000. The manager tells him that the bank will need some form of security for the loan, so Hamish hands over the keys and documents of a new Ferrari parked on the street in front of the bank. He produces the log book and everything checks out. The manager agrees to accept the car as collateral for the loan. The bank's General Manager and its officers all enjoy a good laugh at the rough looking Scotsman for using a £120,000 Ferrari as collateral against a £5000 loan. An employee of the bank then drives the Ferrari into the bank's underground garage and parks it there. Two weeks later, Hamish returns, repays the £5,000 and the interest, which comes to £15.41. The manager says "Sir, we are very happy to have had your business and this transaction has worked out very nicely, but we are a little puzzled. While you were away, we checked you out and found that you are a multimillionaire. What puzzles us is why would you bother to borrow £5,000?" Hamish replies "Where else in London can I park my car for two weeks for only £15.41 and expect it to be there when I return?"

flyerme don't worry about the spelling mate - its what someone says and means; tis what most of want to hear .............. not how its said their wouldn't be one person on hear that hasn't made a spelling mistake somewhere along the line ....................... or would there ??

good conversation and thread ................. its interesting how you can read some comments and initially you can disagree with a view point ......... but further on you can end up agreeing with it whether you are in error or not Flyerme (regarding them clouds) - thanks for the thread - you've created a good safety conversation ........................... and we all learn from that (or we are reminded what we have learnt)

Andy@coffs thanks for that - big subject and lots of parameters .............. no doubt Can't this website arrange collection of proxies - or even conduct a pole to see how many would contibute Seems to me lots read this website so a good 'war chest' should be able to be created ? Or is that a 'no no' & would that antagonise (assuming that the right word to use) RAA further ?

turbo I'd suspect the MAJORITY (me included) don't know these issues - I'd say the majority (me included) will willingly support the betterment of flying Your sumary certainly defines some issues - clearly - thanks ? I've seen some posts that talk about the potential to stop planes flying - are there any specific posts on the subject ? - are there great numbers of planes not or potentially not flying - how big is this problem ? I don't thing Ian has brought my Assoc into disrepute ................. do you think Ian has !

Trouble with this, is ............ its the politics of it all Yes I know our fathers fought in the trenches for these rights but this constitution stuff is as thrilling as the inside of a ping pong ball Perhaps this site could have an indicator like the forest service - Fire danger - 'High to low' RAA board performance - 'Great - not bad - OK - alright - poor - woeful - where the guillotine' I wish there was an easier way that members could voice their opinions without the complications of interpretations, legal advice (god forbid) etc etc I'd be picking the majority out there (me included) don't have the stamina to get involved in it - I'd also guess the majority (me included) don't know the characters on the board or have full knowledge of the real 'nitty gritty' ............... this also lessens any intrigue or complusion to act ?

thats a crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy pilot ......... makes circuits around the field look a bit ....................................... ordinary

OK you blokes ? ........................... out in to the car park and get this sorted

good anecdote kaz3g I was flying with and instructor in a piper tomahawk one day ...... a warm day ........... after a touch and go the tomahawk was not climbing out to well ........... probably a minute or 2 upwind we found the plane went a lot better with carb heat off we both made the same mistake at the same time - but, I'd still call him a good instructor

Yes facthunter - instructors don't have to be your best mate ................ but from 0 to 75 hours (I was a sloowww PPL)the relationship is close - probably for the student than the instructor During training, I believe that even if you have found the bestest instructor ................ you need to fly with others - you need different ideas, techniques etc On the subject of who hogs the controls - these days I always make a point of letting the instructor fly the plane, at some point - they never say no ........ and its good for the cockpit interaction

Instructors ........ touchy subject I've always believed instructors are regular pilots just like the rest ........... they are just more current - and they have the ability to teach .............. some probably don't have liberal lashings of this ability The only instructor that's given me the hebbie gebbies - without exaggeration - NZ - PPL flight - 1 to 2 mile finals - say < than 1000 feet - controlled airport - C152 (probably an aerobat) - he took control ........... full tit - did a loop - handed me control - continued on final to land ! ........... the instructor probably had to break out of the chains that held him - pity he had to involve me in it !

I like the one that goes roughly ................... 'I aim to enjoy my life as best I can - if I fail ........... I'll at least die, trying'

Whhooooooooooooops - summary is - Rotax with 1500 hr (or 2000) life - You can use air switch (take off to landing) to calculate this 1500 - for maintenance its engine time - tacho anyone want to argue - come on then ............ lets:bash: john m - jabbies are different (those without Rotax) - don't go cheating your hours in your log book - all that other stuff

I heard about the unplanned gliding - I was just going strange about the variance in the replies I'm gunna summarize

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