You get the stElmos before the lightning. Ona DC4 there was a white light going forward of Both wingtips, then BAM, ball lightning everywhere. Didn't seem to do much other than scare $#1t out of us and temporary Blindness... Between Darwin and East Timor the monsoon clouds looked like a wall of green Ice going to about 60,000 feet. That was on the F-27. QF 1308.. Nev