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And now, news update. Is there any truth in the rumour doing the rounds that CASA has told RAA and The Parachute Federation that the Part 149 documents submitted by them are crap, get your act together now or there will be no Part 149 approval forthcoming. Further, the funding assistance for the Part 149 approval is going to dry up. The Bull Frog AKA Tony Stanton has been shifted sideways and there is now a new rooster in the hen house. Its interesting if it is true because one may just be vindicated by these turn of events.

Pmccarthy yes I understand that. Even skin such as BCC'S can hold up your medical but if treatment is successful and a watch is kept on the offending type of cancer you can be cleared to fly. I was in fact referring to a terminal condition not treatable and responding type cancers. It great to know that there are a number of cancer survivors out there that are still flying. The real issue with most types of cancer is the psychological state of the sufferer. There have been in the past a number of serious cancer cases who have pulled the pin whilst flying. I had a mate recently step out of an aircraft and free fall to his death because of associated psychological issues. It is a sad fact of life that people do in such circumstances take their own life.

Hi Matty. I really can't advise you as to which way you should go with this as it hasn't been tested as of yet. But if you are so minded not to renew your medical then your GA licence will endure as there would be no grounds under the Reg 269 (b) for CASA to cancel your licence. If you don't want to fly GA then there is no need for a medical and that is not a case of you not having satisfied a requirement. Bear in mind that the medical requirements will change in due course for both GA and Sport aviation in order to bring into existence a level playing field as opposed to the very unfair system that is in place at the moment. Trust me it will happen and CASA will be powerless to stop the changes because it will be the Government of the day decision not those that think they can make policy from within a government apointed authority only. I hope this helps.

No actually the onus is on RAA to know this because of its position of strict liability so RAA must set up a cross checking process with CASA to ensure no one escapes the net.

Sorry but you are wrong if you don't satisfy the medical CASA can cancel your licence. See CAR 269 (b) in brief, if unable to satisfy a requirement then CASA can cancel licence. Being unable to satisfy the medical because of a chronic condition which excludes one from exercising fly privledges in my view is sufficient ground for CASA to act and cancel their licence.

Simply put yes!

One can see it that way if one can see the forest notwithstanding the trees.

I can't believe that some of you can't see what is going on. CASA has already legislated to ensure that there is no bleed off from GA to RAA due to either misconduct or medical issues. The SAO being RAA in the case of this discussion already has strict liability in this regard through the introduction of Part 149 and the MOS to Part 149. Why do you think that apart from RAA all the other SAO's didn't want to go down the pathway of Part 149 because it boarders on being oppressive and illegal. Part 149 is a totally different animal to that which CASA initially advised was going to be introduced. The only way that we can pull ourselves out of the quicksand that is sucking our aviation interests from us is to push for a level playing field for all private operations in Australia. That includes all things from medicals to regulations. Think about it things have not improved they have only worsened for aviators in the private sector and they won't get better until there is a concerted push by the industry for a level playing field, right across the board. This push is coming and that is why the stakeholders in the industry are now joining together under one banner to bring all this situation to an end and bring back some sanity and freedom to private aviation in Australia. What is needed is less operational costs, lest red tape and more user friendly legislation based on sensible decision making and not government policy making through an out of control delegate. It is my humble opinion at this time that the only SAO that will end up operating under P149. If you don't think so before you make uninformed comment read Part 149 and the MOS in the entirety of each document cross referencing the 2 documents and you may then understand the situation a little better. Also review the AOPA opposition and the SAAA opposition to the 2 tier playing field that presently exists. Inform yourselves and maybe just maybe you will become one of the converted. Rick-p

Jim, initially despite what CASA was telling us we were excluded under 95.55 and it's answer to this was that CASA could with one brush stroke fix that, this was just BS. RAA were a protected entity against all others. We were advised to proceed under part 149 but that was at that time only just on the drawing board with some ideas that are nothing like what has finally come into force. It was the longest garden path that I have ever tried to negotiate. Yes maybe nothing specific that excludes us but the part 149 MOS when read as a whole along with Part 149 does basically exclude us. I do not want to cite details here as more likely than not all this will be at some time in the future the subject of Judicial consideration. The Government and its delegated Authority are not above the law and there has been some very serious breaches by them in this area of Regulation. It may well end up costing those responsible very dearly. I would like to say this to those that decide to poohoo my comments please don't bother because you will only make an ass of yourselves. I am the expert in this area and I am paid accordingly for my advice and Court attendances both at the Bar and as a solicitor, over the past 34 yrs. I not attempting to blow my trumpet I'm saying what I have said as I am fed up to the back teeth with those few on this site who present themselves as nothing more than trolls with some of the replies that I have read on various posts on this site. Please if you don't know the answer don't guess it because I can back up all that I say as I only base my statements on facts and circumstances not hearsay. Jim this is not directed at you as for the most part when you comment it is factual and correct.

Sorry for the late reply. I did a while ago attempt to reply on my mobile phone but in the middle of replying Telstra had the all to frequent outage and I lost the post. Anyway, in a nutshell CASA have trivialized a very important process by basically restricting replies to the Public Consultation. You couldn't upload anything to the web site and therefore, straight away you were restricted in making any reasonably informed and supported by evidence response. The reason given was fear of the CASA computer being given a virus. It is good to see that they have good anti virus protection in keeping with it's level of importance in government, LOL. There is a lot more to this whole 760kg weight increase proposal but rather than think for everyone of those who have interest in improving the aviation scene in this country, without the angst of a dual system, for all private operations, these pilot operators need to read, listen and learn and thereafter, make their own informed decisions. For those that are interested and want to really find out more and how we should be dealing with it they should visit AusFly next week at Narromine and when there attend the AGAA tent where almost all the major players in aviation will be. I will finish up by saying that ELAAA has been pushing for more than 6yrs for change and have achieved some milestones, for example RAA are now using what mirrors in part our approved by CASA hands on maintenance course. Nearly 100 people have completed our course but unfortunately RAA won't accept it and as I understand it the Jabiru maintenance course. We are not giving up, yes our platform has changed somewhat but we believe for the better as after this time having familiarized ourselves with the industry and legislation, obtaining a lot more competencies and qualifications we now along with other major players in the arena believe that we will achieve benefits for all of us under one functional system rather than the disjointed piecemeal one we now labour under. We need a level playing field in respect of the regulations for all private operations in Australia. We need all aircraft whether RAA or GA registered by CASA with VH registration only, whether numbers or letters after the VH, it doesn't matter. One medical for all which is based on a very basic platform. All pilot certificates and licences be issued by CASA after all relevant training and competencies have been achieved with the relevant SAO/ training organization. Regards Rick-p

Go to SAAA and get the Jab register VH. Do your self maintenance training and you will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Bruce exactly thats our point all private aircraft should be governed by a simple set of regulations. For example we all only need one easy medical not class 2 or 3 or 4 whatever. One set of rules for GA private and Sport. Its just getting out of hand.

I would just like to say to those keyboard warriors that if they feel the need to comment first, before making fools of themselves go and read the public consultation document on the subject and then the 6 questions that CASA has posted. This submission covers those matters so once you are aware of the process CASA has used to down play the importance of the issue the light may come on for you. This was not posted for those knockers in these forums but as an update for those that are aware of what is going on in aviation today. That is the discrimination by regulation as between one private aviation organization and the GA sector. Obviously those who make stupid and inane comments wouldn't appreciate the real problems that aviation, that is both Sport and GA, face in this country at this time. Some are quick to shoot off their mouth and follow like sheep but then when it all falls down around them they squeal like little girls. Get on board and research what is going on. And for those who hide behind a anonymity don't be shy get who you are out there don't be scared to get a little egg on your face from time to time at least it shows guts and you are not a troll like some others in these forums.

Thank you for your input much appreciated.

Happy now onetrack?