Charts where there is no VTC or VNC.

[APenNameAndThatA]

So, I will be using WAC’s. As far as I can tell, I will need to transfer the Brisbane Centre frequencies from the low level planning map to the WAC (maybe with a green Sharpie),  indicating the pink and purple coverage areas from the planning map (maybe with a brown Sharpie) and writing the AERIS frequency here or there. 

 

As personal preference I will be marking some aerodromes/ALA’s with elevation, circuit height, CTAF, runway orientation, any right hand circuits and any AWIS. 

 

So, how come WAC’s don’t have frequency boundaries and radio coverage marked on them? 

 

Also, is it obvious which centres have the transmitters for Brisbane Centre if I inspect where the centre of the pink circles will be? 

 

Also, also, is there some chart about that already shows the boundaries of the Brisbane Centre  frequency areas on it? It would help if people knew when to change frequencies, although iPads probs fix that issue now. 

 

Thanks!

[Garfly]

 

 

15 hours ago, APenNameAndThatA said:

It would help if people knew when to change frequencies, although iPads probs fix that issue now. 

 

 

Yes they do; also the other mapping issues you raise.  

In this OzRwys example the current FIA freq. as well as the next one are also displayed in the fields on top.  (Click on the image to see it at proper rez.)

 

 

 

Edited July 17, 2021 by Garfly

[Garfly]

Maybe this trip-plan from Roma to St. George shows better an area only covered by WACs.

You can have the app display the boundaries of the current FIA on any installed map. Your ERC Low National and Planning Chart (PCA) - with the course line drawn in - are only a click away, if you wanted to check where the FIA transmitters are located, for example.

 

But in the olden days, yes, WACs often had all kinds of airspace info pencilled in on them including Control Zone wedding cakes etc. But at 1:1,000,000 scale it was never their job to keep up with ever changing airspace changes. They typically weren't updated for many years whereas VTCs etc could change every few months. Thank goodness we can now all have every conceivable chart at our fingertips - reconciled to any and every scale (for the whole world, for that matter)and guaranteed up to date.

 

Again, these 'thumbnails' look huge but you need to click on them to see them properly.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 17, 2021 by Garfly

[APenNameAndThatA]

2 hours ago, Garfly said:

Maybe this trip-plan from Roma to St. George shows better an area only covered by WACs.

You can have the app display the boundaries of the current FIA on any installed map. Your ERC Low National and Planning Chart (PCA) - with the course line drawn in - are only a click away, if you wanted to check where the FIA transmitters are located, for example.

 

But in the olden days, yes, WACs often had all kinds of airspace info pencilled in on them including Control Zone wedding cakes etc. But at 1:1,000,000 scale it was never their job to keep up with ever changing airspace changes. They typically weren't updated for many years whereas VTCs etc could change every few months. Thank goodness we can now all have every conceivable chart at our fingertips - reconciled to any and every scale (for the whole world, for that matter)and guaranteed up to date.

 

Again, these 'thumbnails' look huge but you need to click on them to see them properly.

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you! I had no idea you could display the FIA boundaries over the WAC in Oz Runways! 

 

Edited July 17, 2021 by APenNameAndThatA

[Garfly]

Oh, just hold your finger down on the main map page and a list of Airspaces etc. that overlay that point will come up.  Usually at the bottom of the list is the FIA region that applies.

Although I'd suggest that that might become less necessary when you have the FIA Next set up in one of the HUD fields above. But, yes, it's nice to get an idea of just how far the boundary is away.

Edited July 17, 2021 by Garfly

[Ryanm]

ERCs (Enroute Charts) are what you’re looking for. They’re a seperate map that shows all airspace and the freq boundaries. They’re in OzRWYS, or get a paper copy of the one you need.

[Garfly]

Yes, the ERCs have all the relevant frequencies but it can be a bit of a chore to work out the limits of any one Area Freq., given the clutter of all the IFR routes etc on them.  But, yes, the chart is easy enough to use in the planning phase; and I think that most people just write down the frequencies needed and the change-over waypoints on the planning sheet and/or on the paper map.

 

But the beauty of the EFBs is that the precise area for each frequency can be displayed as a tinted overlay, on any and every chart you might actually use enroute (as illustrated in the screen shots above).  And/or, you can choose to have the current FIA as well as the 'Next' show up on the HUD boxes.

Edited August 3, 2021 by Garfly

[Cosmick]

On 17/07/2021 at 12:12 PM, Garfly said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Must have been a good easterly 🙂

[Garfly]

Ha, ha ... yeah ...  but why easterly!?

It takes a stiff northerly to make a Skyranger scoot south at 231 KTS GS  ;- )

Edited August 3, 2021 by Garfly

[Cosmick]

5 minutes ago, Garfly said:

Ha, ha ... yeah ...  but why easterly!?

It takes a stiff northerly to make a Skyranger scoot south at 231 KTS GS  ;- )

West of the line but yeah must have been a very strong NNE - haha

Edited August 3, 2021 by Cosmick

[Garfly]

 

Okay, the secret's out. My other aircraft is a Cirrus Vision Jet. (There goes whatever rag 'n tube cred I might have had  ;- )